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  Mowbray & Di Matteo promotion seasons & where goals came from
Posted by: Baggeridgebaggy - 53 minutes ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (1)

Team is setting up 451 in lots of ways very similar to the last two promotion seasons ... Skilful, talented players and pleasing on the eye 

Hard not to conclude though that there is a glaring difference. In those promotion teams we had the likes of Koumas, Gera, Koren, Brunt, Mozza, Dorrans etc & they could all score & all contributed 10 or more goals from midfield. Probably at least 40 goals from midfield alone during each season  

I look at our current central midfield 3 & there is no goal threat at all. Sawyer & Livermore do a similar job & certainly won't get more than 5 or ,6 between them. 

Krovinivic is a good footballer but again no goal threat and in my view to justify playing every minute of every game needs much more end product & goals 

I believe he's being a bit overated by fans - the forward playing midfield player must be able to score & be a goal threat in the same way say Koumas did. Is it really enough to look pretty on the ball & keep possession ?

Early days but can't see how we can possibly score enough to challenge for promotion.

Personnel & formations will need looking at from what I've seen

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  Today's thoughts
Posted by: ColliersWoodBaggie - 2 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (4)

Won't individual player ratings, feel to lazy after a Balti at Tiffins. So, here goes:

Frankie and Bennie's - £8.40 for a coke and a Peroni. Not a good start. As I drove there with my dad, I couldn't sup anymore/anywhere else at 11.45. Saw some Derby with Rooney on their backs already. WTF???

Excellent performances - Johnstone (possibly MoM) - but pushed close by Ajayi and Bartley - they were both immense today and have a great understanding. Hegazi won't waltz straight back in, although I think as the season goes on Ajayi may find himself in the midfield, especially if others get suspended or injured; Sawyers - bossed much of it , Krov - constantly wanted the ball, great tricky movement;  Pereira , great cameo, changed things offensively, picks out space with his movement and passing, twisted them inside out for the pen. 

Good - Livermore -unlucky not to score (yes it was a fucking corner), one poor pass, but puts a foot in, and uses the ball fairly well most of the time; Furlong ; thought he did well on the right - good solid defensively and supported the attack well in 2nd half; Ferguson - filled in on left after Gibbs went off and did well;  Diangana, good direct running which opened up space in the second half, could have had a pen, great nutmeg and cutback for the Livermore chance (fucking corner!).  

Ok - Phillips, one blocked shot , but cut inside too much rather than do what he does best - strong , direct running; Edwards, not at his best but didn't hide; Zohore - great pen, cool head and should have scored in first half, but his movement is getting better, but needs to get the ball to stick more than he does

Gibbs - only 20 odd mins - poor start with header back to JOhnstone which went out for the corner. Poor challenge for the pen and I think he injured himself in the challenge for it. He did get forward a couple of times after that, and didn't make any more errors, but he'll be judged on those few seconds of madness. 

Bilic - good use of subs and changed things when he had to. I suspect he'd have used Austin at some point, if Gibbs had not been injured. 

Away support - I'll give a rating - 9.5. Almost non stop noise, all positive and good numbers. Derby's support - 5. Quiet after the second penalty and only briefly came to life after their goal. Decent crowd though, considering it was Sky at 12.30. 

Overall a point most of us would have taken. I'd have liked a win after a home draw, but this will be good point at the season's end, and dare I say it, we may have lost this last season. We are much more compact and we keep the ball much better than we did last season, which for me, is key. I'd like us to be more direct at time - perhaps 2/3 less passes and have a dig - but I think we created more clear chances today than Derby. Johnstone made one decent stop in the second half, because that's all he had to. We didn't take advantage of an average Derby performance in the first half, they left gaps but we didn't exploit them enough. I think we shaded the second half, after Derby had a decent spell for 15 minutes. The key was the penalty save , then , later, Pereira coming on.  A draw was fair overall, also borne out by the stats. 

So, we've scored just under half the goals we had at this point last season (6 against 13- but there was QPR), but are two points better off and unbeaten. I'd say a solid start as we reinvent the squad and playing style to a degree.

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  Question - Season ticket holders
Posted by: Atomic - 4 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - No Replies

Does anyone know if the club allows STH's to change their seat during the season? (not just for one game but for the rest of the campaign).

If so do they charge you?

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  Match threads
Posted by: WorcBaggie - 7 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (3)

Beside it keeping me occupied on the train journey home the only real point of them are to show some posters in the absolute worst light possible. What the fuck gets into some people and what exactly are they watching? If you add in Minstrel's bizarre SJ outlook and Nick acting the cunt about Zohore and this place was a pretty strange read.

Felt today we were quite ponderous and almost lethargic first half, certainly in shifting the ball. Not sure if that stemmed from Gibbs' absolute shocker of a start and we never fully recovered as a group. Second half was much, much better. Main points from the game and reading posts on here....

There is quite an obvious correlation between having a ponderous approach and playing lots of sideways passing and Zohore not getting into the game like we all want (and it's not his movement). He got better as the game went on. And guess what? Diang, initially, then Perreria were far more direct, positive and sharper with their passes (much more so than Edwards and Phillips) and lo and behold Zohore played far better. His runs created little pockets off space for Perriera, Diang and Krov (who also got better with Diang and  Perriera on the pitch) and he dragged Keogh out wide on more than 1 occasion. As for Livermore, I must be the most one-eyed Jake fan around. Dropped a clanger near the end of the game when losing the ball in our own last third but beside that was excellent. It's the lack of positivity and correct movement from Edwards and Phillips that stops the forward movement of Sawyers and Krov. 

SamJ and Semi were outstanding, Sawyers not far behind. Perreria is a genius, I'd pay the money now and shout to Ken for sticking at it.

Team for Blackburn

SamJ

Ferguson/Furlong
Semi
Bartley
Townsend

Sawyers
Jake

Perreria
Krov
Diang

Zahore

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  Perspective
Posted by: Wotty - 7 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (12)

Reading win 2 0 at Huddersfield 

Millwall with an equaliser at Boro to spoil their day

Just shows

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  Would Gayle be making any difference?
Posted by: baggiebod2 - 7 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (22)

Seems to me that we're just not finding the final pass to the strikers rather than any fault on their part...
Mind you, Zohore should've buried one opportunity today.

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  Dawson and Cathcart
Posted by: mickeypearce - 7 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (20)

A championship centre back pairing if ever I saw one

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  Tim Sherwood
Posted by: Gzbaggy - 8 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (2)

Some of you may have been unfortunate enough to hear his words of wisdom at 2.55. Palace were playing for a 0-0 draw and this was the type of approach that got managers the sack.


You wonder how these people get work, Roy that is! Big Grin

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  Roy
Posted by: Duffers - 8 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - Replies (18)

Arf!

Big Grin

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  Bilic & Injury News
Posted by: Super_Slav - 8 hours ago - Forum: WBAUnofficial - No Replies

What does the sending off for Bilic actually mean? Is he in the stands v Blackburn?

Also how long is Gibbs out for? Hope it isn't too serious. But think Bilic should have rotated full backs. Gibbs can't play 2 games in quick succession IMO

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