(06-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Duffers Wrote: [ -> ]DOUBLE WHOOSH AWARDED!
<Bangs tiny hammer>
Minstrel, quit now before you launch into what is and is not relevant to your point...
If that's the best you can do, I would give up Duffers.
(06-09-2020, 10:10 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: [ -> ] (06-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Duffers Wrote: [ -> ]DOUBLE WHOOSH AWARDED!
<Bangs tiny hammer>
Minstrel, quit now before you launch into what is and is not relevant to your point...
If that's the best you can do, I would give up Duffers.
Take your whooshes like a man, FFS sake
(06-09-2020, 09:42 AM)Colmanspig_ Wrote: [ -> ]Churchill was I think by modern standards was racist. His descriptions of the Indians involved in the free India movement are unpleasant. His involvement in the strategic thinking around the Bengal famine pretty shocking. His advisor Fredrick Linderman certainly comes out of it very badly by word and by deed.
There are a few things I don't like about Churchill, but casual racism, though clearly unpleasant, was a product of the times and not the worst of his actions when compared with his treatment of the Welsh miners.
However, he was also a very major factor in saving Europe from the horrors of Nazism. That alone puts him well into the positive column for me. Some of the clowns who desecrated his statue don't seem to understand that without people like him they wouldn't have the freedom to protest.
(06-09-2020, 09:42 AM)Colmanspig_ Wrote: [ -> ]Churchill was I think by modern standards was racist. His descriptions of the Indians involved in the free India movement are unpleasant. His involvement in the strategic thinking around the Bengal famine pretty shocking. His advisor Fredrick Linderman certainly comes out of it very badly by word and by deed.
For those interested in the relationship of Linderman and Churchill and the Bengal Famine of the early 1940s there is a really good podcast on this in the Revisionist History series by Malcolm Gladwell. One of the 'conclusions' of the podcast is when it came to Bengal, Linderman may have been more led by Churchill's thinking than the other way round.
I agree his racist statements of say Gandhi for instance don’t change that we was a great Briton for many and played a larger part than many in liberating Europe from Nazi tyranny, and he was more aware and live to the danger of Stalinist tyranny that followed. But I would recommend looking into the Bengal famine ( the deaths of millions of British subjects)and His role in it .I As for Tonypandy . Acted like a proper Tory bully boy
(06-08-2020, 01:14 AM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: [ -> ] (06-08-2020, 01:02 AM)SausEggBaton Wrote: [ -> ]... announce a potential hose pipe ban, consequently its been pissing it down for days since and the foreseeable future. Purely self centred, but I love firing up the barbie.
Muppets in supermarkets that don't understand one way system arrows, the cnuts. Unfortunately it's our elder generation that are unable to comprehend this simple well signed instruction.
Any others?
Youngsters wanting to protest, without maintaining social distancing - because they are unlikely to die from it. Fuck everyone else they come into contact with, or spread to, including their own family.
Others that believe Democracy is dead, and take the law into their own hands, chucking monuments into the water.
Cunts.
Protest all you like when it is safe to do so, and don't break any laws. How would we feel if the Wolves fans pulled down Bomber's statue?? The protesters had absolutely no mandate to remove the Colston statue. (and I understand why they want it removed, but demolishing it is not the way).
I don't agree with what he stood for, but I hope all of the law breakers have a knock on the door in the morning. You can't create anarchy without expecting the consequences. Law and Order has to preside.
Just picking up on this particular point - Raheem Sterling said the other day "There is only one disease - Racism". Not helpful as a soundbite IMO. And of course factually incorrect.
Dead "racists" aren't a problem. What's done is done. It's the live ones from all races that need dealing with. Delete history good or bad and it will in time be repeated.
