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DOUBLE WHOOSH AWARDED!

<Bangs tiny hammer>

Minstrel, quit now before you launch into what is and is not relevant to your point...

(06-08-2020, 10:19 PM)Jack Halford Wrote: [ -> ]Philanthropy was celebrated in Victorian England and that is why it was erected at that time. It wasn’t just the statue though as we know his name fronts schools, halls and roads. Agreed it did not make reference to the Atlantic slave trade which is the postscript that needs to be added.

The abolition of slavery movement didn’t really gain momentum until the 1770’s (long after Colston’s death) and the Quakers were instrumental in starting the first movement in 1783, which included Methodists.

As already said, there's plenty of evidence that the general population was against slavery even before the first political movements. What you're missing is that the vast population of the UK at the time lived in poverty, were overworked, had no vote, no representation and no voice. 

They were treated like cattle themselves and one of their biggest concerns were that existing laws against slavery in this country would be overturned. They feared what little they had would be gone as their jobs were replaced by slaves. If that happened, how much longer would it be before starvation forced them all to be slaves?

They would have happily put you into slavery and made out they were doing you a favour. They believed they had destiny bestowed by god and yours was to serve.... It wasn't a race issue. They believed they were better than EVERYONE.

All those studies of black skulls to prove they were inferior? They also did it to white working class. Funnily enough, their skulls also turned out to be different and came up as proof of inferiority. Just like Darwin might have said....

When you see those statues - that's the type of person you're looking at.

(06-08-2020, 06:14 PM)Tom Joad Wrote: [ -> ]As was said earlier, there has been a long campaign to remove the statue. It was even on Radio 4 a month or two ago. The local council could and should have solved this long ago. Remove the statue to a museum where it can be displayed next to a huge plaque explaining how Colston's philanthropy was a result of wealth acquired  dubiously. How times were different back then, how we can learn from mistakes. In other words, doing what museums should do.
As an aside, many locals from that area were shanghaied into slavery in Barbados. In fact there are traces of the West Country accent that (until recent times, anyway) could be heard in Bajan speak. Poor sods sunburned to red and were known as the "Ecky Peckys". I know it's nowt to do with the thread but I'll never get another chance to use that fact.

That is actually very interesting Tom - I went to Barbados a few years ago and was struck by how they actually do have a west country twang to their speech. Thankyou for that little fact.

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(06-08-2020, 09:13 PM)Bristolbion Wrote: [ -> ]The big negative about the Bristol protests is that the oooooh R rate down here has seen a big increase

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(06-09-2020, 06:54 AM)Duffers Wrote: [ -> ]DOUBLE WHOOSH AWARDED!

<Bangs tiny hammer>

Minstrel, quit now before you launch into what is and is not relevant to your point...

Why are pirates called pirates? Because they Rrrrrr!

I feel like Dick Emery has been reborn.

(06-09-2020, 07:53 AM)Brentbaggie Wrote: [ -> ]Why are pirates called pirates?  Because they Rrrrrr!

But what's their favourite letter of the alphabet?

(06-09-2020, 08:31 AM)Midget In A Pinstripe Suit Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-09-2020, 07:53 AM)Brentbaggie Wrote: [ -> ]Why are pirates called pirates?  Because they Rrrrrr!

But what's their favourite letter of the alphabet?

They do like the R, but their first love will always be the C!

Cubbish.

And the R's have a much better kit.

Churchill was I think by modern standards was racist. His descriptions of the Indians involved in the free India movement are unpleasant. His involvement in the strategic thinking around the Bengal famine pretty shocking. His advisor Fredrick Linderman certainly comes out of it very badly by word and by deed.