Mandelson

[Protheroe]

I’m talking about the instability brought upon the country with changing the PM every few months.

So am I, and it's about to happen again

And you welcome that instability then?

The instability is caused by kicking the can down the road for 18 years. We need a crisis. I have been saying this pretty much since 2008.

[baggy1]

I’m talking about the instability brought upon the country with changing the PM every few months.

So am I, and it's about to happen again

And you welcome that instability then?

The instability is caused by kicking the can down the road for 18 years. We need a crisis. I have been saying this pretty much since 2008.

This explains your need for Brexit and then deciding that you want to move to a country that is part of the body you wanted to get away from. You are probably having that very crisis now.

[Mouse]

To the PM. I do not want my country run by an idiot and today has shown that Starmer is an idiot.

To be fair to Starmer I don't think he's an idiot. He's a bit like Boris in that respect (wihout the clown persona), however, (like BJ and others) his judgement and morals are questionable (being kind) and he's in good company with MPs on both sides unfortunately.

He shouldn't continue as PM but no point calling for his head because whoever replaces him will be cut from the same cloth.

[Ournextstriker]

Labour sleaze
Curtains for Starmer?

I think he had been blindsided and it will be draped over rather than a cover up.

[Protheroe]

This explains your need for Brexit and then deciding that you want to move to a country that is part of the body you wanted to get away from. You are probably having that very crisis now.

Dear me. I'm not the one having a crisis at all. I'm simply making the best plans for my family in face of the crisis that's coming.

[baggy1]

This explains your need for Brexit and then deciding that you want to move to a country that is part of the body you wanted to get away from. You are probably having that very crisis now.

Dear me. I'm not the one having a crisis at all. I'm simply making the best plans for my family in face of the crisis that's coming.

You really do overegg the soufflé here, uprooting your family from their support network because we are facing a situation that has largely been made worse by Brexit is a bit dramatic dear. If you feel that is necessary then good luck to you but it is probably the most ironic flounce this dump will have seen. I'll be sticking around trying to sort the mess out with my kids and grandkids.

[Protheroe]

This explains your need for Brexit and then deciding that you want to move to a country that is part of the body you wanted to get away from. You are probably having that very crisis now.

Dear me. I'm not the one having a crisis at all. I'm simply making the best plans for my family in face of the crisis that's coming.

You really do overegg the soufflé here, uprooting your family from their support network because we are facing a situation that has largely been made worse by Brexit is a bit dramatic dear. If you feel that is necessary then good luck to you but it is probably the most ironic flounce this dump will have seen. I'll be sticking around trying to sort the mess out with my kids and grandkids.

Good grief, what a mealy-mouthed patronising post.

I'm not uprooting anyone. It's just me and Mrs P, no other surviving close relatives. By the time we move the kids will all be of an age when they can make their own decisions. It's hardly flouncing to retire somewhere warmer, with better food and a far more accommodating tax system is it? I'm certain people have done it before. In fact I'm in Marbella in a few weeks with my accountant who works from there and a former colleague who's ended up settling in Malaga - his kids have ended up in Spain too - one via 5 years in Argentina, the other who's set up a business.

It's a very small world these days. Proth Major has already decided to spend 3 months working and travelling in the States next Summer. Thank goodness my kids are looking beyond our shores for opportunities, there are far too few for them here.

It didn't have to be this way, and trying to link my retirement with Brexit is oddly obsessive. I'd happily go to the States, Canada if it was warmer, Australia, New Zealand or any number of countries in Europe. What on Earth has my antipathy to a failing political construct got to do with where I might want to live? It's like you saying I'm not allowed to move to Tipton after railing against malfeasance at Sandwell Council.

[baggy1]

Arf the irony of you including 'dear' in posts and then accusing others of being patronising. I obviously misunderstood your 'making the best plans for my family' as wider than just you and the missus.

[Squid]

This explains your need for Brexit and then deciding that you want to move to a country that is part of the body you wanted to get away from. You are probably having that very crisis now.

Dear me. I'm not the one having a crisis at all. I'm simply making the best plans for my family in face of the crisis that's coming.

You really do overegg the soufflé here, uprooting your family from their support network because we are facing a situation that has largely been made worse by Brexit is a bit dramatic dear. If you feel that is necessary then good luck to you but it is probably the most ironic flounce this dump will have seen. I'll be sticking around trying to sort the mess out with my kids and grandkids.

Good grief, what a mealy-mouthed patronising post.

I'm not uprooting anyone. It's just me and Mrs P, no other surviving close relatives. By the time we move the kids will all be of an age when they can make their own decisions. It's hardly flouncing to retire somewhere warmer, with better food and a far more accommodating tax system is it? I'm certain people have done it before. In fact I'm in Marbella in a few weeks with my accountant who works from there and a former colleague who's ended up settling in Malaga - his kids have ended up in Spain too - one via 5 years in Argentina, the other who's set up a business.

It's a very small world these days. Proth Major has already decided to spend 3 months working and travelling in the States next Summer. Thank goodness my kids are looking beyond our shores for opportunities, there are far too few for them here.

It didn't have to be this way, and trying to link my retirement with Brexit is oddly obsessive. I'd happily go to the States, Canada if it was warmer, Australia, New Zealand or any number of countries in Europe. What on Earth has my antipathy to a failing political construct got to do with where I might want to live? It's like you saying I'm not allowed to move to Tipton after railing against malfeasance at Sandwell Council.

For someone who claims this country is falling apart, moving to Spain seems a peculiar choice. Lovely weather and scenery, but also a place with significant social problems, not least an unemployment rate which is double that of the UK a subsequent significant brain drain problem and worse housing issues.

[man in the corner shop]

Spain? Good on em
https://news.sky.com/story/spain-to-lega...r-13257320

I this know Proth can only stay 90 days a year there because of the sunlit uplands he voted for.