Rochdale By Election
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(02-14-2024, 01:55 PM)Ted Maul Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 01:54 PM)Protheroe Wrote: I agree with the latter point. Your former point would carry more weight had the left not been consistently anti-Israel for decades.

I'd never seen myself as anti-Israel but I'm definitely anti-bombing kids.

Is there anyone here who isn't?

(02-14-2024, 02:02 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Having taken student groups to Auschwitz on multiple occasions and seen and felt it’s indelible impact (Birkenau even more so in some ways) I find what they are doing in Gaza unconscionable. That aside, just on a purely objective basis, they are also just multiplying the future generational threats they will face.

It's war. War is generally unconscionable.
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#22
(02-14-2024, 02:26 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 01:55 PM)Ted Maul Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 01:54 PM)Protheroe Wrote: I agree with the latter point. Your former point would carry more weight had the left not been consistently anti-Israel for decades.

I'd never seen myself as anti-Israel but I'm definitely anti-bombing kids.

Is there anyone here who isn't?

I dunno, that opinion would probably see you thrown out of the Labour party.
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#23
Would you say the same if asked about the persecution of Jews by Hitler?
Someone could have been killed
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#24
(02-14-2024, 03:14 PM)Ted Maul Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 02:26 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 01:55 PM)Ted Maul Wrote:
(02-14-2024, 01:54 PM)Protheroe Wrote: I agree with the latter point. Your former point would carry more weight had the left not been consistently anti-Israel for decades.

I'd never seen myself as anti-Israel but I'm definitely anti-bombing kids.

Is there anyone here who isn't?

I dunno, that opinion would probably see you thrown out of the Labour party.

I think Keir Starmer himself is probably "anti-bombing kids" tbh Ted
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#25
and so, as the story becomes not just about Labour it fades from the wall to wall coverage… 

Inconvenient
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#26
Good to see the parties taking action. Sad that they have to.
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#27
Arf

Warning… this Protheroe is reversing.
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#28
Reversing from what?

Anti-semitism is at a 40 year high in the UK. It wasn’t just the far right in the 1930s-40s, and it isn’t just the anti colonialists on the Left now.
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#29
(02-15-2024, 08:07 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Reversing from what?

Anti-semitism is at a 40 year high in the UK. It wasn’t just the far right in the 1930s-40s, and it isn’t just the anti colonialists on the Left now.

what was happening in 1984 when it was high ?
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#30
(02-15-2024, 03:59 PM)Ournextstriker Wrote:
(02-15-2024, 08:07 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Reversing from what?

Anti-semitism is at a 40 year high in the UK. It wasn’t just the far right in the 1930s-40s, and it isn’t just the anti colonialists on the Left now.

what was happening in 1984 when it was high ?

Scargill was leading the Union movement, intent on bring down Thatcher's government.
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