Covid Vaccination ID

[baggy1]

You need to look at the context that Boris said it would be needed, he was blustering around not answering questions in PMQs and tripped over his own tongue trying to avoid answering directly as usual.

[backsidebaggie]

You need to look at the context that Boris said it would be needed, he was blustering around not answering questions in PMQs and tripped over his own tongue trying to avoid answering directly as usual.

I hope you’re right that he is just using it to persuade uptake. Because as I say, the idea of a domestic passport to get in places was literally a tin foil hat idea six months ago.

[baggy1]

You need to look at the context that Boris said it would be needed, he was blustering around not answering questions in PMQs and tripped over his own tongue trying to avoid answering directly as usual.

I hope you’re right that he is just using it to persuade uptake. Because as I say, the idea of a domestic passport to get in places was literally a tin foil hat idea six months ago.

And the more people that go on about it mean that more people will protest and resist meaning that it is more likely to be needed if there is another resurgence of the virus. 

However, and here is the catch - if after vaccination it does turn out that those that haven't been vaccinated are causing a new wave of infections, would you then be comfortable with introducing some form of these restrictions, would you mandate the vaccine or would you allow the virus to spread?

[backsidebaggie]

You need to look at the context that Boris said it would be needed, he was blustering around not answering questions in PMQs and tripped over his own tongue trying to avoid answering directly as usual.

I hope you’re right that he is just using it to persuade uptake. Because as I say, the idea of a domestic passport to get in places was literally a tin foil hat idea six months ago.

And the more people that go on about it mean that more people will protest and resist meaning that it is more likely to be needed if there is another resurgence of the virus. 

However, and here is the catch - if after vaccination it does turn out that those that haven't been vaccinated are causing a new wave of infections, would you then be comfortable with introducing some form of these restrictions, would you mandate the vaccine or would you allow the virus to spread?

I would never mandate a vaccine. From the statistics I have seen, I don’t understand how on earth the small anount of those who choose not to have it can create a surge in hospitalisations (an increase in cases doesn’t matter as long as it’s not an increase in hospitalisations and deaths).

And that is exactly the excuse the tin foil hat nutters have said will be used to mandate it. Literally exactly that. I laughed at them.

High take up of an effective vaccine was supposed to be enough to live with it. The goalposts keep moving and I suspect they’ll continue to.

[baggy1]

The goalposts haven’t moved on the vaccination programme, I’ve explained that one to you

[backsidebaggie]

The goalposts haven’t moved on the vaccination programme, I’ve explained that one to you

Boris three weeks ago: you won’t need a passport to get in a pub.

Boris this week: we’re looking at passports to get in a pub.

Goalposts moving.

Back to normal by Xmas. Then Easter. Then summer.....

I think there’s been lots of goalposts moving.

We’ll see how it turns out.

Edit: I haven’t got a subscription but the headline and first paragraph suggest further movement of boris’s goalposts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...-theatres/

[strawman]

The goalposts haven’t moved on the vaccination programme, I’ve explained that one to you

Boris three weeks ago: you won’t need a passport to get in a pub.

Boris this week: we’re looking at passports to get in a pub.

Goalposts moving.

Back to normal by Xmas. Then Easter. Then summer.....

I think there’s been lots of goalposts moving.

We’ll see how it turns out.

Edit: I haven’t got a subscription but the headline and first paragraph suggest further movement of boris’s goalposts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...-theatres/

It's in the Metro as well,more or less quotes the Telegraph article

'Covid passport checks could be introduced at theatres, football matches, wedding venues and even some workplaces, it has been reported.  Ministers are understood to be looking at using the NHS contact tracing app or creating a new similar version that produces a scannable QR code showing you are Covid safe. This could include proof of a vaccine, a negative test or having antibodies after recovering from the virus. The move would allow for social distancing rules to be scrapped earlier than planned and possibly as soon as May 17, when indoor hospitality is due to reopen, according to The Telegraph.'

https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/25/covid-pas...-14307785/

[baggiebuckster]

How can you say the goalposts haven't moved? Even the BBC news last night showed 2 interviews with Boris where he said 2 different things regarding vaccine passports to visit pubs etc

[baggy1]

But that is in line with your views on restrictions bb, 'this could include proof of a vaccine, a negative test or having antibodies' is exactly what you said is acceptable to restrict the lives of foreign travellers in coming to this country. So I take it you would accept that.

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How can you say the goalposts haven't moved? Even the BBC news last night showed 2 interviews with Boris where he said 2 different things regarding vaccine passports to visit pubs etc

Boris is a fucking moron and there's no safety catch between his brain and his mouth that's why, if you haven't grasped that by now then you would still be shaking hands and hugging hospital porters.

[baggiebuckster]

If the vaccine goalposts haven't moved then why are they now trialing them on kids? That was never part of the plan previously.