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(09-21-2020, 09:13 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: [ -> ]Polish lap dancers. One guy will walk the 500 mile journey from Solihull!

And I would walk 500 more.

(09-21-2020, 09:26 PM)lemon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:13 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: [ -> ]Polish lap dancers. One guy will walk the 500 mile journey from Solihull!

And I would walk 500 more.

And if I grow-old (when I grow-old) well I know I'm gonna be

I'm gonna be staring at tits that do not move.

The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

(09-21-2020, 09:43 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

How do you value them at £300 million?

What’s the rationale behind it?

(09-21-2020, 09:43 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

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(09-21-2020, 09:47 PM)baggiebloke Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:43 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

How do you value them at £300 million?

What’s the rationale behind it?

Well look at this way squad value, ground, attendances, revenues and scope for growth (fan base) and that's off the top of my head. If WBA were valued at near £200m they are easily worth 50% more. Fosun have also tapped heavily into the Chinese market, something Lai has failed to do. Just my thoughts.

(09-21-2020, 09:53 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:47 PM)baggiebloke Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:43 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

How do you value them at £300 million?

What’s the rationale behind it?

Well look at this way squad value, ground, attendances, revenues and scope for growth (fan base) and that's off the top of my head. If WBA were valued at near £200m they are easily worth 50% more. Fosun have also tapped heavily into the Chinese market, something Lai has failed to do. Just my thoughts.

OK. 

So no basis other than "just your thoughts"

Thank goodness for that.

(09-21-2020, 10:06 PM)baggiebloke Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:53 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:47 PM)baggiebloke Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2020, 09:43 PM)thr1879 Wrote: [ -> ]The club or Lai appointed advisers in January to sell the club. I'm only surprised it hasn't leaked out sooner. The person who advised me of this works with VC on deals in the ball park WBA would go for. Whilst I don't have details of value, one can only imagine that it  must have had a price based on promotion and one without or at least some sort of additional fees if promotion was achieved. Their feeling was Lai would have a real job shifting WBA for anywhere near the reported £175-£190 million he paid for it. The real issue is, whoever buys it will look to make long term returns. Fosun bought Wolves pretty cheap and I'd say it's probably worth in excess of £300m now. It was a pretty shrewd investment on their part. There are very few Abramhovics' or sovereign wealth funds, so unless Lai cuts his losses, we are stuck with him.

How do you value them at £300 million?

What’s the rationale behind it?

Well look at this way squad value, ground, attendances, revenues and scope for growth (fan base) and that's off the top of my head. If WBA were valued at near £200m they are easily worth 50% more. Fosun have also tapped heavily into the Chinese market, something Lai has failed to do. Just my thoughts.

OK. 

So no basis other than "just your thoughts"

Thank goodness for that.

£300m is about a fair price ... most PL clubs are worth £175-200m just by virtue of being in the top flight.... Wolves have just made the latter stages of a European completion, have two players in Traore and Neves who are worth £50m+ and have finished in the top 7-8 in the last 2 seasons.

Fosun have definitely made good on the £30m or so they paid for them...

Given Wolves are in second premier league season they would get 4 seasons of parachute money as a minimum if relegated. so guaranteed circa £220m inc this season. But they aren’t going to be relegated, hence have significant (virtually guaranteed) income stream

Player values gives at least another £200m,then there’s the tangible assets - suspect value well in excess of £300m

As we all know the value of anything is generally not scientific as it’s about how much someone wants to buy or sell & comparable sales

In Diangana & Pereira we have at least £40m in value, plus premier league income. Can’t see us being worth less than £130m even with COVID

At that price Fosun should sell now if they are are Thomas Fooked; Wolves cannot go any higher in this climate, and certainly not given that the competition has knocked them from Europe and they will fall further behind this year.

But I don't see any deal of this magnitude going ahead soon; not with the double-whammy of COVID-19 and football's day of reckoning so overdue. The EPL badly needed the goalfest it got this week because without the matchday buzz people are beginning to switch over, and access to alternatives has never been easier.

But having said that, this is shaping up to be a very tough season, but the best in years for the neutral. Fosun have a tough choice to make, but I feel that the ship has already sailed on them. It could be disastrous, and does explain in a couple of recent sales.

Fosun is a multinational group, and - believe me - multinational group strategy cares nothing for divisional well-being when the shit hits the fan-tango. The risk to the Dings now is that the impending asset-strip courts (and results in) relegation, but they are ostensibly some way off that. For now.