Leicester Localised Lockdown

[Spandaubaggie]

I hope Kier Starmer can help change the madness in the Labour Party because you will have more real fascism and racism otherwise.

You think that all of the issues in society and lack of freedom of speech is down to the 'madness in the Labour Party'? You don't think wider society, Brexit, Farage, Tommy Robinson, Trump etc are the problem rather than the result? Interesting viewpoint / opinion - I disagree and if you roll back a few years you will remember the leader of the BNP or whatever they called themselves at the time being on QT and everybody saying 'if you give them the airtime they will shoot themselves in the foot', which he did. They then gave Farage the same treatment, except that he was much more astute and prepared and the rest, as they say, is history.

By giving the airtime to bigots, who can be very intelligent, educated and convincing you will get other bigots receiving confirmation bias. That in itself is where you need to look at the problems - Not thinking the Labour party need to sort their act out because they are ruining it for the rest of us. the problem lies with the liars and bigots in power.

It's at both ends. Extreme right and extreme left, but all we are left with is polarised shouting at opposite ends. Far right scum, who are proper racists and far left nutters alike.
Fact is, and there's no hiding that debate has been closed down and the post above this shows.
We know there's white trash and black trash and Asian trash and equally good in all of these races, but we can't mention the Asian idiocy in Leicester  as it is seen as 'racist'.
I recall one of the child sex abuse grooming scandals the report saying prosecutions were prevented due to PC madness, because we can't say the fact that it was Pakistanis involved.
I voted Labour and to stay in the EU, but I can see the madness, which means the silent majority get angrier as every day the BBC run some weak tale like about Alexandra Burke saying she was racially abused growing up, and see that warrants a headline. All of us were probably abused in some way by other ignorant people. That's part of life. 
We have to start dealing with the real issues rather than blow tiny things out of proportion, because until we do society is on a dangerous path.

Or alternatively we could deal with the issues we seem to want to brush under the carpet, such as racism, and then we can move onto the 'real issues' whatever they are. 

Shabs has put it perfectly in his post about the narrative around the Bournemouth beaches and the Leicester 'spike'. Where have you been told you can't talk about the Leicester incident because it's racist? I always try and put some figures around the story where I can, it would be interesting to know how big this actual spike is and how that compares with other areas before I start talking about multi generational, handshaking worshippers.

I'm still no wiser why you want the Labour party to sort out their mess.

We need strong opposition and until Labour get more central we have none. Starmer has made a good start.
Trouble is the hyper analysis of stories which in the news of old, a few years back, would be considered weak is bonkers. For instance, we start highlighting mild insults as being news worthy and the term racism is a catch all phrase which pigeon holes people so strongly, when the person may not be racist, but just made a joke out of someone's differences or used their difference to pin onto an insult. Overweight guy is a fat bastard, red haired guy a ginger bastard, but call someone a black bastard and it's a different game.
To me racism in its real place is beating someone up or denying them a job based on their ethnicity, with a built up hatred of that ethnic group. I also believe we have made giant strides in this country in the past couple of generations, but many of those jumping on the Black Lives Matter band wagon has made it seem like no advancements have been made. 
Fact is a black lad brought up in a loving family will do better in life than some white kid whose mum is an alcoholic and dad in jail.
Equally, the black woman who has kids off some missing father isn't going to have the right environment for her kids to do well, and it is little wonder when so many kids from that background go off the rails.
Debate now though seems to miss some of the commonsense fundamentals.