Hughton talks next week
#31
(05-15-2019, 11:40 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:28 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:07 AM)MGalea Wrote: Just had a look at Nice and Viera.

If you think Houghton is Pulis-esque check out their goals For and against this season!

P 36   F 28  A 32   difference -4.  Average of 0.77 goals scored a game! Riveting!


Where did you get that from, MG? They scored 35 and let in 60 (GD -25)

Anyway, while are dealing in the currency of FACTS, I'm uncomfortable with one where Brighton achieved 3 wins in their last 23 games (sound familiar?). Our youth team even gave them 2 good games in the FA Cup too.

Incidentally, my mention of the glass ceiling wasn't a criticism of him. He tends to take the clubs he manages to the limit of their potential. The reason I'm not keen on him being appointed is it smacks as short-term thinking again. Weren't we all lamenting about the managerial merry-go-round only 12-18 months ago? Hughton is very much in the Bruce/Hughes/Pardew bracket for me.

We've still got some money to come from parachute payments. I want to see us use it to establish a proper long-term model and appoint a head coach that will buy into it.

Let’s look at the reality of these long term models by looking at our marvellous system we had under Ashworth...

It consisted of us keeping our best players when we went up and down. The head coaches changed was it three times in that time, and the only time it looked like we would stay up is when we got lucky with Roy becoming available after his time at Liverpool (hardly the cliched young and hungry manager). The clubs financial planning and good fortune / timing had just as much to do with our success as anyting else.

Didn't the training and medical facilities get transformed on his watch? And a new coaching structure? That's long-term thinking. The fruits of his labour are beginning to show. Dan has since done great work at the FA too, so it would seem there is merit in that plan. 

I'm well aware of the importance of the Prem money to the club and that we need to get promoted a.s.a.p. but the decision making in the past 12 months has been haphazard at best. Love DM to bits, but I'm not convinced his appointment was done with a long-term view and clearly, neither was his sacking.
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#32
(05-15-2019, 11:28 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:07 AM)MGalea Wrote: Just had a look at Nice and Viera.

If you think Houghton is Pulis-esque check out their goals For and against this season!

P 36   F 28  A 32   difference -4.  Average of 0.77 goals scored a game! Riveting!


Where did you get that from, MG? They scored 35 and let in 60 (GD -25)

Anyway, while are dealing in the currency of FACTS, I'm uncomfortable with one where Brighton achieved 3 wins in their last 23 games (sound familiar?). Our youth team even gave them 2 good games in the FA Cup too.

Incidentally, my mention of the glass ceiling wasn't a criticism of him. He tends to take the clubs he manages to the limit of their potential. The reason I'm not keen on him being appointed is it smacks as short-term thinking again. Weren't we all lamenting about the managerial merry-go-round only 12-18 months ago? Hughton is very much in the Bruce/Hughes/Pardew bracket for me.

We've still got some money to come from parachute payments. I want to see us use it to establish a proper long-term model and appoint a head coach that will buy into it.

Have we got parachute payments though? Wasn't there talk a while ago about next year's being advanced early/ committed as security? Take into account the Early Bird ST offer (why, other than cash flow?) and I've got a nasty feeling any new manager will need to perform miracles with next to no budget. We could easily be looking down rather than up next session.
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#33
(05-15-2019, 11:28 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:07 AM)MGalea Wrote: Just had a look at Nice and Viera.

If you think Houghton is Pulis-esque check out their goals For and against this season!

P 36   F 28  A 32   difference -4.  Average of 0.77 goals scored a game! Riveting!


Where did you get that from, MG? They scored 35 and let in 60 (GD -25)

Anyway, while are dealing in the currency of FACTS, I'm uncomfortable with one where Brighton achieved 3 wins in their last 23 games (sound familiar?). Our youth team even gave them 2 good games in the FA Cup too.

Incidentally, my mention of the glass ceiling wasn't a criticism of him. He tends to take the clubs he manages to the limit of their potential. The reason I'm not keen on him being appointed is it smacks as short-term thinking again. Weren't we all lamenting about the managerial merry-go-round only 12-18 months ago? Hughton is very much in the Bruce/Hughes/Pardew bracket for me.

We've still got some money to come from parachute payments. I want to see us use it to establish a proper long-term model and appoint a head coach that will buy into it.

That was from the league table on Google so apologies if wrong! But actually i'm not sorry because mine is the facts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/fre...-one/table
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#34
(05-15-2019, 12:34 PM)MGalea Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:28 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:07 AM)MGalea Wrote: Just had a look at Nice and Viera.

If you think Houghton is Pulis-esque check out their goals For and against this season!

P 36   F 28  A 32   difference -4.  Average of 0.77 goals scored a game! Riveting!


Where did you get that from, MG? They scored 35 and let in 60 (GD -25)

Anyway, while are dealing in the currency of FACTS, I'm uncomfortable with one where Brighton achieved 3 wins in their last 23 games (sound familiar?). Our youth team even gave them 2 good games in the FA Cup too.

Incidentally, my mention of the glass ceiling wasn't a criticism of him. He tends to take the clubs he manages to the limit of their potential. The reason I'm not keen on him being appointed is it smacks as short-term thinking again. Weren't we all lamenting about the managerial merry-go-round only 12-18 months ago? Hughton is very much in the Bruce/Hughes/Pardew bracket for me.

We've still got some money to come from parachute payments. I want to see us use it to establish a proper long-term model and appoint a head coach that will buy into it.

That was from the league table on Google so apologies if wrong! But actually i'm not sorry because mine is the facts:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/fre...-one/table

Sorry MG, thought you were quoting Brighton stats, misread your post.
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#35
We were going to hire Alex Neil a couple of weeks ago, Hughton is a step above that.
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#36
(05-15-2019, 11:40 AM) pid=\68161' Wrote:Let’s look at the reality of these long term models by looking at our marvellous system we had under Ashworth...

Didn't Ashworth just sack him?!
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#37
(05-15-2019, 12:43 PM)Cornflake Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 11:40 AM)pid=\68161 Wrote:Let’s look at the reality of these long term models by looking at our marvellous system we had under Ashworth...

Didn't Ashworth just sack him?!

Sshhuush he is trying to do us a favour Big Grin
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#38
(05-15-2019, 10:56 AM)brada_wba Wrote: Don't want Hughton and his entourage of staff.

Lee Johnson is the man - young and hungry. His Bristol side play some brilliant pressing football on a proper budget.

He was the favourite 10 minutes after Dave was sacked and he probably needs a new challenge? 

I'd take Potter in a heartbeat.
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#39
Hughton is more of a Hodgson/ Moyes type - in terms of style. He is not in the same league as TTITC

I wouldn’t fuck about - make a reasonable offer and get him in. Huge job this is now.
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#40
(05-15-2019, 12:26 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote: FFS are we never going to try anything new, does nobody have a vision - is Hughton going to bring in some exciting young talent? It's a no from me. I want someone with balls and is not frightened of playing attractive football with a bunch on nobodies.

Potter.
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