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Unemployment only comes second to inflation for its corrosive effects.
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#62
Maybe in a mid 80s textbook, aye
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(09-04-2023, 06:44 PM)Protheroe Wrote: Are you suggesting Dear Margaret wasn't competent?

Like I said earlier, Blair inherited a golden scenario of low and stable inflation and interest rates, the rise of cheap Chinese production and endless cheap labour from post Communist Eastern Europe.

The next Labour government won't have any of that.

It's easy to appear competent when the cards are stacked in your favour.

If Thatcher was competent she wouldn't have accidentally induced a recession and then copy off the Liberal Party's homework to fix that.

Or screw up energy and telecoms infrastructure.
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#64
Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically
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(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

Or thought gay people were part of a conspiracy to turn people into socialists by the public sector
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(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

All leaders keep strange bedfellows. It's called realpolitik.
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(09-05-2023, 07:31 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

All leaders keep strange bedfellows. It's called realpolitik.

Some would call it nuance.  They'd say it with a straight face, too.
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(09-05-2023, 07:31 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

All leaders keep strange bedfellows. It's called realpolitik.

Pinochet a 'strange bedfellow'

It's called talking bollocks
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(09-05-2023, 07:52 AM)CarlosCorbewrong Wrote:
(09-05-2023, 07:31 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

All leaders keep strange bedfellows. It's called realpolitik.

Some would call it nuance.  They'd say it with a straight face, too.

No. It's the difference between being faced with reality and how you'd like reality to be. 

Blair & Gaddafi for instance. Thatcher and back channels to the IRA.

You (and I) may not like it, but Pinochet saved Chile from a fate similar to that of current Venezuela. That is not to absolve him of all his other crimes - but a statement of fact.

Thatcher (rightly) held disdain for Mandela's views on nationalisation of British commercial interests. As it is she was right. South Africa under the ANC is rapidly descending into as much of a corrupt and lawless shithole as its neighbour Zimbabwe.
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(09-05-2023, 07:31 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(09-04-2023, 09:53 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Or had General Pinochet over for tea and held disdain for Mandela- she was Morally corrupt abroad and domestically

All leaders keep strange bedfellows. It's called realpolitik.

It would appear that some current politicians are expected not to have any contact whatsoever with  how. did you describe it, strange beďfellows.

North East mayor can't discuss films with film director who directs films about the North East.

Former pm can give sanctuary to a friend, who was a murderer, torturer and successfully led a coup that overthrowed a democratically elected govt.
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