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[Birdman1811]

Also. What is 'woke' and what's so bad about being fair and  kind to everyone? Is it better to be misogynistic, homophobic, racist or transphobic for example. Do people want to be allowed to be that? If so I get it. It reiterates why I hate the human race as much as I do, but at least I get it.

Been asking this myself for a while. Not had an answer yet.

Same.

Basically as far as I can tell, people don't like being called out for their shitty ideas and comments. 

I've said things that weren't very kind, and certainly non woke, whatever it means. I learn from it and don't say it again amd apologise if necessary. It's not hard

I probably am, in the eyes of a few on here “woke” possibly even a “woke twat”. I’m not screaming for TV shows from 30 years ago to be cancelled because they made a joke about black people once, nor do I believe in punishing people for comments or tweets made a decade ago without context. But I do pull people up on comments or views that I don’t think are acceptable in 2021, partly because I feel it’s the right thing to do, but also because I enjoy boiling gammon piss a little….

Thing is though I genuinely do not believe the majority of people are racist in any way, but I do feel that a lot of people feel uncomfortable when issues such as race are brought up. Most of us on here are white, male and straight, we’ve never really have to deal with any serious “isms” in our lives. Throughout history we are the group that have pretty much had it all our own way, and whether directly or indirectly we have benefited from a series of systems and biases that work in our favour. I think a lot of people are unprepared to or uncomfortable with admitting and acknowledging that fact, especially now that the areas of society that were previously marginalised are pushing for a little more equality.

The other issue IMO, is that it’s 2021 now and there are things and words and behaviours that were socially acceptable in the 70’s/80’s/90’s that are no longer. Again, I’m not calling for any of that to be airbrushed but there needs to be an acceptance of that was then and this is now. Some people seem to be personally challenged and affronted by the fact that you can’t say “faggot” any more or similar. It’s born out of a desire to stay in their own little bubbles and not accept that the world has changed.

Agree with this.