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[Derek Hardballs]

It does look quite amateur but the fact that advertisers are pulling out for political reasons seems to give the founders point about cancel culture some legs.
I hope it gets it act together and grows, after all the BBC have been banging on about how good diversity is and here is a channel as different from the BBC agenda as you can get

Advertisers have currently pulled for a number of reasons. Some because they weren’t aware that the agency I assume that looks after their advertising had agreed they could be shown, others because they think the channel is not inclusive and doesn’t fit into their brands values. That’s their choice as a free market business rather than ahem ‘cancel’ culture. 

If a station is going to weaponise terms like ‘woke’ and have a echo-chamber of opinion where ‘alternative facts’ are normal then don’t be surprised if some businesses won’t endorse that brand / channel with their product. 

The idea that Sky and the BBC are the opposite end of spectrum of broadcasting in terms of news is daft. The opposite of GB news would be pro-republic, anti-monarch, Corbynite news agenda and have guest such as Owen Jones etc on every hour.

Cancel culture is the attempt to silence opinions you don't like via the threat of income removal.
 If you think removing advertising from a channel whose opinions you don't agree with doesn't fall into that category, then you are as deluded as those from B6. 
Think your last paragraph pretty much sums up C4 doesn't it?

Nope, no ones cancelling anyone, those companies are allowed to not advertise on a Channel they don't want to. GB arf 'News' is free to find other advertisers who are happy to work with them. 

Channel Four News simply holds this government to account, in a professional manner. The fact that the government won't allow ministers to appear on Channel Four News says all you need to know about this governments willingness to be scrutinised. If you want to go down the wanky cancel culture nonsense, are the government not trying to cancel Channel Four News by not allowing access to the cabinet? They are public figures not private sector businesses, they are accountable to all not just those who voted for them. It only ever seems to be cancel culture when it's about punching down not up.

[MassDebater]

At the end of the day, if it gets the viewing figures in then the advertisers will most likely start using them... It's amazing how a few quid can change some views of things.

Interesting to see that Ronaldo's drink water statement after he removed 2 coke bottles, has seen loads slashed off Coca Cola's share price! if they suddenly found loads of buyers on GBeebies then I bet they'd start advertising.

[Birdman1811]

At the end of the day, if it gets the viewing figures in then the advertisers will most likely start using them... It's amazing how a few quid can change some views of things.

Interesting to see that Ronaldo's drink water statement after he removed 2 coke bottles, has seen loads slashed off Coca Cola's share price! if they suddenly found loads of buyers on GBeebies then I bet they'd start advertising.

No one has mentioned Ronaldo's coke adverts then? I'm sure he's sponsored by Pepsi too or was anyway.

[MassDebater]

At the end of the day, if it gets the viewing figures in then the advertisers will most likely start using them... It's amazing how a few quid can change some views of things.

Interesting to see that Ronaldo's drink water statement after he removed 2 coke bottles, has seen loads slashed off Coca Cola's share price! if they suddenly found loads of buyers on GBeebies then I bet they'd start advertising.

No one has mentioned Ronaldo's coke adverts then? I'm sure he's sponsored by Pepsi too or was anyway.

Couldn't see any mention of it, and had no idea it had happened til it appeared on one of my feeds. Seemed to fit this fred, hence not starting another. I also thought it was to do with being sponsored by pepsi (am sure he was / is?)

[Duffers]

Also. What is 'woke' and what's so bad about being fair and  kind to everyone? Is it better to be misogynistic, homophobic, racist or transphobic for example. Do people want to be allowed to be that? If so I get it. It reiterates why I hate the human race as much as I do, but at least I get it.

Been asking this myself for a while. Not had an answer yet.

[sickParrot]

At the end of the day, if it gets the viewing figures in then the advertisers will most likely start using them... It's amazing how a few quid can change some views of things.

Interesting to see that Ronaldo's drink water statement after he removed 2 coke bottles, has seen loads slashed off Coca Cola's share price! if they suddenly found loads of buyers on GBeebies then I bet they'd start advertising.

No one has mentioned Ronaldo's coke adverts then? I'm sure he's sponsored by Pepsi too or was anyway.

He did work with pepsi but rejected a contract due to their links with israel military.

He did also previously advertise coke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViAsdprMxQs 

the woke hypocrite!

[MassDebater]

woke - is a term that refers to awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.

Which in itself should be encouraged. It seems to be slipping into meaning people who cry injustice for every little thing though, diluting it's point somewhat. I think it's a bit like being 'right on' back in the days of Ben Elton doing stand up etc...

[Birdman1811]

Also. What is 'woke' and what's so bad about being fair and  kind to everyone? Is it better to be misogynistic, homophobic, racist or transphobic for example. Do people want to be allowed to be that? If so I get it. It reiterates why I hate the human race as much as I do, but at least I get it.

Been asking this myself for a while. Not had an answer yet.

Same.

Basically as far as I can tell, people don't like being called out for their shitty ideas and comments. 

I've said things that weren't very kind, and certainly non woke, whatever it means. I learn from it and don't say it again amd apologise if necessary. It's not hard

[Shabby Russian]

On advertising.

Adverts will always be placed according to the programme being shown and the anticipated audience for that programme. 

So the advert shown during Coronation Street will not be the same as for an England football international .

The idea that it is an example of cancel culture  for you not to want to advertise your products on a certain tv channel is nonsense. 

It would be like trying to argue that the Daily Mail is guilty of cancel culture for not publishing articles by Owen Jones.

[Duffers]

Also. What is 'woke' and what's so bad about being fair and  kind to everyone? Is it better to be misogynistic, homophobic, racist or transphobic for example. Do people want to be allowed to be that? If so I get it. It reiterates why I hate the human race as much as I do, but at least I get it.

Been asking this myself for a while. Not had an answer yet.

Same.

Basically as far as I can tell, people don't like being called out for their shitty ideas and comments. 

I've said things that weren't very kind, and certainly non woke, whatever it means. I learn from it and don't say it again amd apologise if necessary. It's not hard

I probably am, in the eyes of a few on here “woke” possibly even a “woke twat”. I’m not screaming for TV shows from 30 years ago to be cancelled because they made a joke about black people once, nor do I believe in punishing people for comments or tweets made a decade ago without context. But I do pull people up on comments or views that I don’t think are acceptable in 2021, partly because I feel it’s the right thing to do, but also because I enjoy boiling gammon piss a little….

Thing is though I genuinely do not believe the majority of people are racist in any way, but I do feel that a lot of people feel uncomfortable when issues such as race are brought up. Most of us on here are white, male and straight, we’ve never really have to deal with any serious “isms” in our lives. Throughout history we are the group that have pretty much had it all our own way, and whether directly or indirectly we have benefited from a series of systems and biases that work in our favour. I think a lot of people are unprepared to or uncomfortable with admitting and acknowledging that fact, especially now that the areas of society that were previously marginalised are pushing for a little more equality.

The other issue IMO, is that it’s 2021 now and there are things and words and behaviours that were socially acceptable in the 70’s/80’s/90’s that are no longer. Again, I’m not calling for any of that to be airbrushed but there needs to be an acceptance of that was then and this is now. Some people seem to be personally challenged and affronted by the fact that you can’t say “faggot” any more or similar. It’s born out of a desire to stay in their own little bubbles and not accept that the world has changed.