Mandelson

[Pontificator]

So the defence of Mandelson is that he's an idiot. In which case why is an idiot who can be easily be compromised by being too close to people who shouldn't be trusted an ambassador?

If you want to pick on him because he doesn't fit with your politics at least be honest. Paedophiles take the finest of people in don't they, just look at the CofE the Catholic church, institutions that support children all infected by these awful people who know exactly how to inviegle themselves.

[Borin' Baggie]

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So the defence of Mandelson is that he's an idiot. In which case why is an idiot who can be easily be compromised by being too close to people who shouldn't be trusted an ambassador?

Have you seen our politicians over the last few years. Boris was caught hungover in an airport on his way back from meeting a known russian spy - he still became the highest politician in the land.

You know my opinion of Boris Johnson so I have absolutely no idea why you'd bring him up. Mandelson is in the exact same category of Johnson though in terms of his past dealings and friends he's kept, need a remind you of his close personal links to Russian oligarchs in Putin's inner circle?

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So the defence of Mandelson is that he's an idiot. In which case why is an idiot who can be easily be compromised by being too close to people who shouldn't be trusted an ambassador?

If you want to pick on him because he doesn't fit with your politics at least be honest. Paedophiles take the finest of people in don't they, just look at the CofE the Catholic church, institutions that support children all infected by these awful people who know exactly how to inviegle themselves.

Be honest about what? Mandelson is one of the slimiest and corrupt politicians of the modern era and this is the third Labour PM he's made to look a fool for trusting him. Starmer was an idiot for making him an ambassador, made to look a complete fool yesterday because of it and is going to look even stupider every passing day he's not binned off, except now because of his stupidity he's risking pissing off Trump by lending credibility to the leaks that Murdoch's rags are putting out.

[Jacko]

Well this has taken a sinister turn, and look who's at the heart of defending the nonce loving liability...

Wearing that Red Rosette with pride, shielding all who work.under it.

But whatabout...

[baggy1]

Just who is defending him? I've said he should go, in fact I've said he will be gone by the weekend. My only real comment on this was that BB's point on Starmer looking as stupid as Truss was a bit overstated.

[Jacko]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

[strawman]

Mandelson sacked now making Starmer's judgment and self awareness about equal to a goldfish

[baggy1]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

[WorcsWBA]

From the Foreign Office:

"In light of the additional information in emails written by Peter Mandelson, the Prime Minister has asked the Foreign Secretary to withdraw him as Ambassador. The emails show that the depth and extent of Peter Mandelson’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is materially different from that known at the time of his appointment. In particular Peter Mandelson’s suggestion that Jeffrey Epstein’s first conviction was wrongful and should be challenged is new information. In light of that, and mindful of the victims of Epstein’s crimes he has been withdrawn as Ambassador with immediate effect."

This doesn't suggest that the much-vaunted "due process" was very good. It's right that he's gone.

Now let's have full disclosure of the Epstein files and see who else falls out of a tree.

[CIM]

Labour losing senior officials at an astonishing rate. Who is next?
Has there ever been a government that has come apart so quickly? Tory government's do.... but after a decade.

[Shabby Russian]

From the Foreign Office:

"In light of the additional information in emails written by Peter Mandelson, the Prime Minister has asked the Foreign Secretary to withdraw him as Ambassador. The emails show that the depth and extent of Peter Mandelson’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is materially different from that known at the time of his appointment. In particular Peter Mandelson’s suggestion that Jeffrey Epstein’s first conviction was wrongful and should be challenged is new information. In light of that, and mindful of the victims of Epstein’s crimes he has been withdrawn as Ambassador with immediate effect."

This doesn't suggest that the much-vaunted "due process" was very good. It's right that he's gone.

Now let's have full disclosure of the Epstein files and see who else falls out of a tree.

Well yes.

I could have told you of Mandelsons links Epstein before he was appointed ambassador and I'm a no nothing from North Devon.