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It is to those businesses depriving the very communities they operate in - they pay their taxes and we all have a better life. But why don’t you look over here at these foreigners and blame them for the state of the country.
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If all else fails, push the racism/xenophobia button. It's a matter of numbers regardless of origin ffs. The next election is a long way off but a certain bogey man won't let people forget their frustrations and anger for a minute between then and now. People that feel they're being shat on will turn off the shat tap asap. The next few weeks aint going to be pretty as a result of yesterday's reversal topping up the frustrations
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(08-29-2025, 09:35 PM)baggy1 Wrote: It is to those businesses depriving the very communities they operate in - they pay their taxes and we all have a better life. But why don’t you look over here at these foreigners and blame them for the state of the country.

…and Labour have done what about this? The only difficult decisions they’ve wanted to make was to cut billions of pounds of support to the poorest and most vulnerable whilst dividing people into deserving ‘working’ and not deserving disabled, pensioners and carers. The narrative Labour are pushing with their actions is appalling, they are ushering in an awful Reform government, whilst their supporters scratch their heads as to why the are haemorrhaging support. Whoever is advising Starmer and co are simply terrible at their jobs.
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(08-30-2025, 07:24 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote: If all else fails, push the racism/xenophobia button. It's a matter of numbers regardless of origin ffs. The next election is a long way off but a certain bogey man won't let people forget their frustrations and anger for a minute between then and now. People that feel they're being shat on will turn off the shat tap asap. The next few weeks aint going to be pretty as a result of yesterday's reversal topping up the frustrations

Explain what you mean by ‘it’s a matter of numbers’? Simple questions - do we need immigration? And do you think that the 4% of that immigration is the difference between everything being alright and everything being shit?
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(08-30-2025, 07:36 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(08-29-2025, 09:35 PM)baggy1 Wrote: It is to those businesses depriving the very communities they operate in - they pay their taxes and we all have a better life. But why don’t you look over here at these foreigners and blame them for the state of the country.

…and Labour have done what about this? The only difficult decisions they’ve wanted to make was to cut billions of pounds of support to the poorest and most vulnerable whilst dividing people into deserving ‘working’ and not deserving disabled, pensioners and carers. The narrative Labour are pushing with their actions is appalling, they are ushering in an awful Reform government, whilst their supporters scratch their heads as to why the are haemorrhaging support. Whoever is advising Starmer and co are simply terrible at their jobs.

The penny is going to drop, any minute now...
Would rather talk to ChatGPT
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(08-30-2025, 08:26 AM)CarlosCorbewrong Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 07:36 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(08-29-2025, 09:35 PM)baggy1 Wrote: It is to those businesses depriving the very communities they operate in - they pay their taxes and we all have a better life. But why don’t you look over here at these foreigners and blame them for the state of the country.

…and Labour have done what about this? The only difficult decisions they’ve wanted to make was to cut billions of pounds of support to the poorest and most vulnerable whilst dividing people into deserving ‘working’ and not deserving disabled, pensioners and carers. The narrative Labour are pushing with their actions is appalling, they are ushering in an awful Reform government, whilst their supporters scratch their heads as to why the are haemorrhaging support. Whoever is advising Starmer and co are simply terrible at their jobs.

The penny is going to drop, any minute now...

With who CC? There are no solutions that would be palatable to anyone I’m afraid, if I was brave enough to ask what solutions would you propose I would either get some form of ‘I’m just a bloke on a football message board’ response, or something about a wealth tax that wouldn’t work. Plenty of examples of where it doesn’t work are available. 

They have introduced a wealth tax btw by adding pensions into the IHT calculation but that will take time to filter through, but you want it now. You want to solve years of problems caused by Brexit and austerity in just over 12 months.
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(08-30-2025, 08:02 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 07:24 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote: If all else fails, push the racism/xenophobia button. It's a matter of numbers regardless of origin ffs. The next election is a long way off but a certain bogey man won't let people forget their frustrations and anger for a minute between then and now. People that feel they're being shat on will turn off the shat tap asap. The next few weeks aint going to be pretty as a result of yesterday's reversal topping up the frustrations

Explain what you mean by ‘it’s a matter of numbers’? Simple questions - do we need immigration? And do you think that the 4% of that immigration is the difference between everything being alright and everything being shit?

There's an absolute crippling housing crisis. How does 28k illegal immigrants this year so far alone help this besides legal ones? They are put in hotels because there is nowhere else to put them. When they almost all processed positively where are they going? You have to start somewhere. All about numbers
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(08-30-2025, 08:44 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 08:02 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 07:24 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote: If all else fails, push the racism/xenophobia button. It's a matter of numbers regardless of origin ffs. The next election is a long way off but a certain bogey man won't let people forget their frustrations and anger for a minute between then and now. People that feel they're being shat on will turn off the shat tap asap. The next few weeks aint going to be pretty as a result of yesterday's reversal topping up the frustrations

Explain what you mean by ‘it’s a matter of numbers’? Simple questions - do we need immigration? And do you think that the 4% of that immigration is the difference between everything being alright and everything being shit?

There's an absolute crippling housing crisis. How does 28k illegal immigrants this year so far alone help this besides legal ones? They are put in hotels because there is nowhere else to put them. When they almost all processed positively where are they going? You have to start somewhere. All about numbers

There's a housing crisis because we haven't built 4,000,000 homes over the last 40 years. There would be a housing crisis with net negative immigration. The party you are going to vote for is opposed to building more houses.
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(08-30-2025, 08:54 AM)Borin' Baggie Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 08:44 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 08:02 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(08-30-2025, 07:24 AM)Baggiejacko Wrote: If all else fails, push the racism/xenophobia button. It's a matter of numbers regardless of origin ffs. The next election is a long way off but a certain bogey man won't let people forget their frustrations and anger for a minute between then and now. People that feel they're being shat on will turn off the shat tap asap. The next few weeks aint going to be pretty as a result of yesterday's reversal topping up the frustrations

Explain what you mean by ‘it’s a matter of numbers’? Simple questions - do we need immigration? And do you think that the 4% of that immigration is the difference between everything being alright and everything being shit?

There's an absolute crippling housing crisis. How does 28k illegal immigrants this year so far alone help this besides legal ones? They are put in hotels because there is nowhere else to put them. When they almost all processed positively where are they going? You have to start somewhere. All about numbers

There's a housing crisis because we haven't built 4,000,000 homes over the last 40 years. There would be a housing crisis with net negative immigration. The party you are going to vote for is opposed to building more houses.
Probably 100% all true but the answer isn't to keep allowing the situation to worsen. We're skint and can't build the houses even if we find spaces for them. It aint just houses needed its hospitals, schools, doctors practices and other infrastructure. It needs a stop till we've caught up. Then there's the matter of staffing these places needed. Ffs we're at bursting point in a lot of areas.
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