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(01-27-2025, 10:32 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 08:12 AM)ColliersWoodBaggie Wrote: The structure is embedded in these players and Mowbray has said not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I am talking about attacking patterns of play. Not defensive structure. 

Both side of the game need drilling and coaching consistently. Or else you end up with a Sam Allardyce/David Moyse/Sean Dyche style. Well drilled off the ball but depending on individuals to win games.

No one is saying the team don’t need coaching. But you seem to believe that drilling players is more important than player confidence. What Collier and I are saying is there is already the basis of a team structure both in attack and defence and if Mowbray thinks it only needs “tweaking” I trust his instincts rather than yours. He’s made it clear that he believes several of the players were lackiing confidence and restoring it was his priority. He should know - it’s his profession and how he makes his living. Managers often get things wrong but not as much a supporters.
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(01-27-2025, 03:05 PM)Brentbaggie Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 10:32 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 08:12 AM)ColliersWoodBaggie Wrote: The structure is embedded in these players and Mowbray has said not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I am talking about attacking patterns of play. Not defensive structure. 

Both side of the game need drilling and coaching consistently. Or else you end up with a Sam Allardyce/David Moyse/Sean Dyche style. Well drilled off the ball but depending on individuals to win games.

No one is saying the team don’t need coaching. But you seem to believe that drilling players is more important than player confidence. What Collier and I are saying is there is already the basis of a team structure both in attack and defence and if Mowbray thinks it only needs “tweaking” I trust his instincts rather than yours. He’s made it clear that he believes several of the players were lackiing confidence and restoring it was his priority. He should know - it’s his profession and how he makes his living. Managers often get things wrong but not as much a supporters.

And haven't suggested ToMo won't drill them, tbf. I am just saying I hope to see more evidence of it in the coming weeks because we didn't see it v Pompey, as it was an average performance considering the result. There is fledgling signs that a few things are being worked on, mostly, Styles floating into Midfield to support MJsnd our CM. 

As you say you trust his instincts. I think I do as well, so fingers crossed, but so far is no "letting off the leash" or getting "on the front foot", but I very much hope we do find that balance and we approach it professionally.
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#23
(01-27-2025, 03:16 PM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 03:05 PM)Brentbaggie Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 10:32 AM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 08:12 AM)ColliersWoodBaggie Wrote: The structure is embedded in these players and Mowbray has said not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I am talking about attacking patterns of play. Not defensive structure. 

Both side of the game need drilling and coaching consistently. Or else you end up with a Sam Allardyce/David Moyse/Sean Dyche style. Well drilled off the ball but depending on individuals to win games.

No one is saying the team don’t need coaching. But you seem to believe that drilling players is more important than player confidence. What Collier and I are saying is there is already the basis of a team structure both in attack and defence and if Mowbray thinks it only needs “tweaking” I trust his instincts rather than yours. He’s made it clear that he believes several of the players were lackiing confidence and restoring it was his priority. He should know - it’s his profession and how he makes his living. Managers often get things wrong but not as much a supporters.

And haven't suggested ToMo won't drill them, tbf. I am just saying I hope to see more evidence of it in the coming weeks because we didn't see it v Pompey, as it was an average performance considering the result. There is fledgling signs that a few things are being worked on, mostly, Styles floating into Midfield to support MJsnd our CM. 

As you say you trust his instincts. I think I do as well, so fingers crossed, but so far is no "letting off the leash" or getting "on the front foot", but I very much hope we do find that balance and we approach it professionally.

Well this all got a bit Grindr.
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(01-27-2025, 03:21 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: Well this all got a bit Grindr.

Arf...
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(01-27-2025, 03:23 PM)Lurker#3 Wrote:
(01-27-2025, 03:21 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: Well this all got a bit Grindr.

Arf...

HH, you leave my boyfriend alone.

p.s. Lurker - agreed!
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