The managerial shortlist
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Think he'd be a great fit in terms of profile, developing younger players, coaching and as a continuation from Carlos.
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(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Why would we contemplate him? He’s done nothing to warrant the position… we are currently 8th despite poor form and they are still five points behind us.
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(12-29-2024, 11:08 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Why would we contemplate him? He’s done nothing to warrant the position… we are currently 8th despite poor form and they are still five points behind us.

Er…maybe we’ve got a far better squad than them?
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(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Correct.  Not sure how good he is but (rightly or wrongly) the profile appears to be the up and coming coach. 

That also explains why Liam Manning (who I don’t rate that highly) is fairly short priced.
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(12-29-2024, 11:26 AM)MancBaggie Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Correct.  Not sure how good he is but (rightly or wrongly) the profile appears to be the up and coming coach. 

That also explains why Liam Manning (who I don’t rate that highly) is fairly short priced.

Agreed mon. He (Swansea gaffer) was the first name Id heard mentioned. No idea how positive the response was. Certainly based on the game at our place early this season I thought they had a lot of positives in terms of shape and organisation.
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(12-29-2024, 11:16 AM)Pragmatist Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:08 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Why would we contemplate him? He’s done nothing to warrant the position… we are currently 8th despite poor form and they are still five points behind us.

Er…maybe we’ve got a far better squad than them?

Can’t be true we have a very poor squad I heard it on here first two months … ever since we starting drawing matches.
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(12-29-2024, 11:16 AM)Pragmatist Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:08 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Why would we contemplate him? He’s done nothing to warrant the position… we are currently 8th despite poor form and they are still five points behind us.

Er…maybe we’ve got a far better squad than them?

You're not allowed to suggest that, it was all Carlos' magic that got us where we are... The players are all crap
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(12-29-2024, 11:30 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:26 AM)MancBaggie Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Correct.  Not sure how good he is but (rightly or wrongly) the profile appears to be the up and coming coach. 

That also explains why Liam Manning (who I don’t rate that highly) is fairly short priced.

Agreed mon. He (Swansea gaffer) was the first name Id heard mentioned. No idea how positive the response was. Certainly based on the game at our place early this season I thought they had a lot of positives in terms of shape and organisation.

I didn’t think they were that great at ours but given how their budgets are reduced every year/ they have to sell a key player - can’t argue with their league position

The Swansea job gets harder every year for the above reason. Cooper got them in the play offs and that’s why I wouldn’t hammer Martin for the job he did there
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So many on social media writing off young up and coming coaches. “What have they won?” “He failed at Stoke”. “Got sacked at x”. “Why? They’re below us in the league”.

Good young managers have to do it the hard way in the lower leagues. They don’t get handed top jobs on a plate just because of their big name playing career. Nearly every manager gets sacked 2 or 3 times in their career, which means that they experienced a bad run with a particular group of players (often those they inherited rather than chose). How many times did Mourinho get sacked?

A good coach is a good coach. They might be at the wrong club with the wrong resources. They may well have an owner or a board with no patience and no clear strategy, who press the panic button far too soon.

Just because a manager coached in Europe doesn’t make him adaptable to Championship or Premier League football. There’s only two English managers currently in the Premier League (Howe and Dyche although McKenna is close), following the sackings of Cooper and Martin. Some of the coaches on our (apparent) shortlist like Schumacher and Williams, Eustace and Robins are de facto among the top dozen English coaches in the country!

A bit of context is always useful in any debate.

(12-29-2024, 11:41 AM)MrBater Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:16 AM)Pragmatist Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:08 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 11:06 AM)tHEgLASSdOORS Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 10:59 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Luke Williams at Swansea mentioned a couple of times this morning. He won't leave them for us I'd not imagine but he'd be one I would be keen on.

Definitely been sounded out

Why would we contemplate him? He’s done nothing to warrant the position… we are currently 8th despite poor form and they are still five points behind us.

Er…maybe we’ve got a far better squad than them?

You're not allowed to suggest that, it was all Carlos' magic that got us where we are... The players are all crap

See my post below
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Can people just preface their posts with POINTS SCORING so I know which ones to skip when looking for peoples opinions on potential new managerial candidates?
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