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I think Zak lives in Baggie Tel's loft.
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The only thing sensible Baggie Zak has said is Trump will win. It's looking increasingly like that.
What a terrible state the country must be when the majority of the electorate can vote him in again.
There's really a book in why this should be the case, but to believe a corrupt dictator is a better option than Harris means all America needs to look at itself.
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(10-17-2024, 03:47 PM)PatelsPlatoon Wrote: The only thing sensible Baggie Zak has said is Trump will win. It's looking increasingly like that.
What a terrible state the country must be when the majority of the electorate can vote him in again.
There's really a book in why this should be the case, but to believe a corrupt dictator is a better option than Harris means all America needs to look at itself.

I wouldn't be so sure.

I said above, polls are swinging between the two, but the general feels us that Trump hasn't and won't gain any new support, while the anti Trump side grows. Sone of his comments do feel like he's setting up to challenge the result when he loses.
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is it looking like Trump will win? Harris is leading by a couple of points in the national polls and has been said, her support is growing whilst Trump's seems to be decaying.

It'll be about turnout in the end though, just like always

PS it bears repeating but, don't feed the troll
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(10-17-2024, 04:13 PM)ChamonixBaggie Wrote: is it looking like Trump will win? Harris is leading by a couple of points in the national polls and has been said, her support is growing whilst Trump's seems to be decaying.

It'll be about turnout in the end though, just like always

PS it bears repeating but, don't feed the troll

The "swing states" are too close to call. 

It's going to be close.
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Yeah it'll be close. I'm cautiously optimistic. Despite the polls, in any actual elections over the past couple of years Dems have outperformed polls comfortably and they're way ahead in early voting in the swing states. I do fear interference/fraud though.

The sooner they get rid of the electoral college the better.
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(10-17-2024, 04:19 PM)ChamonixBaggie Wrote: Yeah it'll be close. I'm cautiously optimistic. Despite the polls, in any actual elections over the past couple of years Dems have outperformed polls comfortably and they're way ahead in early voting in the swing states. I do fear interference/fraud though.

The sooner they get rid of the electoral college the better.

The alternative is that Trump invariably outperforms the polls. Always has, millions will vote for him who will never admit it

That said you are right about polls for senate and house seats over the last couple of years, Democrats have come out well up on polling.

Latest polling has Trump ahead by 1 percent plus in 3 of the swing states and Harris ahead by less than 1 percent in the other 4.

I'd guess she needs at least a 2 percent polling lead in these States to convert to winning the electoral college votes on offer.
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V close - but the vile lying twat is favourite with the bookies.  He could shoot someone in Manhattan and still win
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(10-17-2024, 03:47 PM)PatelsPlatoon Wrote: The only thing sensible Baggie Zak has said is Trump will win. It's looking increasingly like that.
What a terrible state the country must be when the majority of the electorate can vote him in again.
There's really a book in why this should be the case, but to believe a corrupt dictator is a better option than Harris means all America needs to look at itself.
He won't win the popular vote.  The Electoral College is the thing.
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He's going to win.

If Labour fucks everyone over as I fear then we might find ourselves with a similar anti-politics mood here.

The global response to the GFC looks worse by the minute. Therein lie the knotted roots to all of this.
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