Trump

[CarlosCorbewrong]

As an American, I am absolutely embarrassed that Trump and Harris are the best candidates we came up with. I mean, seriously? My nan who's been dead for 10 years could do a better job. Going to be a shit show regardless what who wins, of that I have no doubt but whatever.

Being a Baggies fan for over 15 years now and a special education teacher, am used to ups and downs and stress haha, so we will see what happens.

Welcome Carolina!

Do you like Dexys?  What about Shaggy?

[PatelsPlatoon]

As an American, I am absolutely embarrassed that Trump and Harris are the best candidates we came up with. I mean, seriously? My nan who's been dead for 10 years could do a better job. Going to be a shit show regardless what who wins, of that I have no doubt but whatever.

Being a Baggies fan for over 15 years now and a special education teacher, am used to ups and downs and stress haha, so we will see what happens.

Nice to hear from you. 
I think on a world stage it’s Trump there’s amazement at. Don’t think in the democratic world we’ve ever seen anyone so lacking in values who has somehow become a cult leader.
He’s a compulsive liar and a crook but somehow he’s still there.
How did you become a Baggies fan?

[chasetownbaggie]

Just a couple of Trump’s wise words from the debate
“States are aborting babies after 9 months”
“Illegal immigrants are eating cats dogs and family pets”
This idiot has a real chance of being the next president of the US…

He'll be claiming Harry and Meg's kids don't exist next.

In 20 or so years of reading this dump “Harry and Meghan’s kids don’t exist” is still the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on here.

Had to search for that thread. God, I miss coming on here regularly

[Protheroe]

I've only heard it I on the radio but first class from Taylor Swift. Posted a pic of herself with her cat, said she was voting Harris and signed herself off as childless cat lady
Bra fucking vo!

That’s a big deal for Harris. Swift is one of the most influential people in America right now.

It'll also shift a few more votes Trump's way.

[Spandaubaggie]

I've only heard it I on the radio but first class from Taylor Swift. Posted a pic of herself with her cat, said she was voting Harris and signed herself off as childless cat lady
Bra fucking vo!

That’s a big deal for Harris. Swift is one of the most influential people in America right now.

It'll also shift a few more votes Trump's way.

Probably not.

The endorsement of someone as hugely influential as her, with a good wholesome image is worth an enormous amount. I don't think I even know one song by her and my 20 year old daughter despises her, but it still doesn't change our opinions on Trump.

Simply a few states will decide this election and if Trump get's back in power it'll be based on those who probably will be deeply unhappy with both parties and vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils.

As appalling as Trump is his message does resonate with many that they are now living in a place that has changed around them, with jobs gone, immigrants galore and a feeling of loss of opportunity. 

Harris needs to talk to these people and say how she's going to give them hope and if she can convey that she'll win. In many ways it's pretty identical to what we had here a few months ago.

[Hudds1]

I've only heard it I on the radio but first class from Taylor Swift. Posted a pic of herself with her cat, said she was voting Harris and signed herself off as childless cat lady
Bra fucking vo!

That’s a big deal for Harris. Swift is one of the most influential people in America right now.

It'll also shift a few more votes Trump's way.

Why?

[Tiptonmon]

As an American, I am absolutely embarrassed that Trump and Harris are the best candidates we came up with. I mean, seriously? My nan who's been dead for 10 years could do a better job. Going to be a shit show regardless what who wins, of that I have no doubt but whatever.

Being a Baggies fan for over 15 years now and a special education teacher, am used to ups and downs and stress haha, so we will see what happens.

Surely you can't be lumping Trump and Harris together with the tired old 'They're all as bad as each other' refrain. Nobody is nearly as bad as Trump. Harris came out as an articulate person who has the best interests of the American people at heart. Trump, the convicted felon, showed that he was a compulsive liar who only has the best interests of Donald J Trump at heart. There is absolutely no comparison.

[BurleyBaggie]

Having lived in America and been back here for a few years, I’m not surprised people lump Harris and Trump together but it’s bogus.

Neither are the best I agree, but what’s lost (I saw this first hand under Trump) is that he is trying to dismantle the safeguards that exist that separate the judiciary from the state, to politicise offices that should remain politically agnostic while bastardising the constitution for his own right wing Project 2025 acolytes.

In America, it always felt like they were not seeing this or believed the constitution protects them from it. That is simply not true, he’s politicised the Supreme Court which means he can infer, through their judgements, new interpretations of the constitution and amendment rights, just look at Roe vs Wade.

Harris isn’t an ideal leader of the free world, but my god is she a candidate that will protect the ideals of the USA and its allies abroad.

[DemonicBaggie]

As an American, I am absolutely embarrassed that Trump and Harris are the best candidates we came up with. I mean, seriously? My nan who's been dead for 10 years could do a better job. Going to be a shit show regardless what who wins, of that I have no doubt but whatever.

Being a Baggies fan for over 15 years now and a special education teacher, am used to ups and downs and stress haha, so we will see what happens.

Surely you can't be lumping Trump and Harris together with the tired old 'They're all as bad as each other' refrain. Nobody is nearly as bad as Trump. Harris came out as an articulate person who has the best interests of the American people at heart. Trump, the convicted felon, showed that he was a compulsive liar who only has the best interests of Donald J Trump at heart. There is absolutely no comparison.

My thoughts, exactly.

Then again, I was just reading an article featuring some elderly lass in the post-industrial backwashes of Michigan who said that whilst she admired Harris in the debate, she'd probably vote for trump as "he was a man of his word" and that, although "he had done some wrong things, he should be forgiven".... at which point you have to factor in the extensive reach of Fox in the US and realise that many people only receive the sanitized version of trump. Depressingly the way of the world and very close to the state-controlled propaganda we scoff at in places like Russia.

[Spandaubaggie]

As an American, I am absolutely embarrassed that Trump and Harris are the best candidates we came up with. I mean, seriously? My nan who's been dead for 10 years could do a better job. Going to be a shit show regardless what who wins, of that I have no doubt but whatever.

Being a Baggies fan for over 15 years now and a special education teacher, am used to ups and downs and stress haha, so we will see what happens.

Surely you can't be lumping Trump and Harris together with the tired old 'They're all as bad as each other' refrain. Nobody is nearly as bad as Trump. Harris came out as an articulate person who has the best interests of the American people at heart. Trump, the convicted felon, showed that he was a compulsive liar who only has the best interests of Donald J Trump at heart. There is absolutely no comparison.

My thoughts, exactly.

Then again, I was just reading an article featuring some elderly lass in the post-industrial backwashes of Michigan who said that whilst she admired Harris in the debate, she'd probably vote for trump as "he was a man of his word" and that, although "he had done some wrong things, he should be forgiven".... at which point you have to factor in the extensive reach of Fox in the US and realise that many people only receive the sanitized version of trump. Depressingly the way of the world and very close to the state-controlled propaganda we scoff at in places like Russia.

Bang on.

And here we have what was once rational decent people looking at GB News and down the same rabbit hole.

I think Midge and me commented before, as we work in media/tech what is going on, which is due to all of us being fed everything we like through algorithms. 

I know close friends, who it's impossible to converse with now as they have become closet right wing nut jobs.

Too many are blindly taking in stuff, which is doing so little, but making them very angry and quite unpleasant.

It's a bonkers and dangerous world now, with the public more puppets.

As was said before watch The Social Dilemma to see what is going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0