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(07-15-2024, 09:31 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Trump will win. As much as people worry about what will happen to NATO and Europe i suspect we’ll see a fairly rapid conclusion to the Ukraine conflict when he does.

I’m no fan of the bloke but he does foreign policy very differently for sure

Yep. He threatens to come over and build golf courses where they don't want them.
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#42
(07-15-2024, 09:31 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Trump will win. As much as people worry about what will happen to NATO and Europe i suspect we’ll see a fairly rapid conclusion to the Ukraine conflict when he does.

I’m no fan of the bloke but he does foreign policy very differently for sure

The rapid conclusion would be for Russia to get everything that it wants to placate his mate Putin.

Trump will also decimate the world response to the climate crisis, which would give everyone (apart from deniers like him) another thing to worry about because action not taken now will see us fail to control warming.
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#43
No good can come from having an arrogant, egotistical, stupid, fraudulent cunt heading the USA for the next 4 years.

That's Trump by the way.
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#44
(07-15-2024, 10:11 PM)WorcsWBA Wrote:
(07-15-2024, 09:31 PM)CaptainFantastico Wrote: Trump will win. As much as people worry about what will happen to NATO and Europe i suspect we’ll see a fairly rapid conclusion to the Ukraine conflict when he does.

I’m no fan of the bloke but he does foreign policy very differently for sure

The rapid conclusion would be for Russia to get everything that it wants to placate his mate Putin.

Trump will also decimate the world response to the climate crisis, which would give everyone (apart from deniers like him) another thing to worry about because action not taken now will see us fail to control warming.

Logical thoughts.

I think Europe will hold strong  Too much to lose
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#45
(07-15-2024, 08:26 PM)MrFizz Wrote:
(07-15-2024, 07:52 PM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: It’s been a great week for Trump. Have to hope that the impetus changes before the election.
Only there though can a 20 year old lad get hold of a gun that can blow someone’s head off at 100 plus yards and multi millions think that’s ok.

Not necessarily 'ok', more like if everyone there had high-powered rifles the guy wouldn't have turned up in the first place. Thats their way of thinking.

I'm just surprised none of the Trump followers who spotted the shooter on the roof and tried to alert the authorities weren't armed and therefore able to kill him for themselves. As trophy hunting goes that would have been one for the wall.
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#46
(07-16-2024, 05:55 AM)GunsOfNavarone Wrote: I'm just surprised none of the Trump followers who spotted the shooter on the roof and tried to alert the authorities weren't armed and therefore able to kill him for themselves. As trophy hunting goes that would have been one for the wall.

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#47
(07-14-2024, 04:52 PM)albion_pigeon Wrote: No doubt this will give a massive boost to his polling, alongside Biden's complete senility I really fear for Ukraine. USA is heading for a civil war.

Trump wins = absolute chaos
Trump loses = absolute chaos
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(07-16-2024, 08:55 AM)DemonicBaggie Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:52 PM)albion_pigeon Wrote: No doubt this will give a massive boost to his polling, alongside Biden's complete senility I really fear for Ukraine. USA is heading for a civil war.

Trump wins = absolute chaos
Trump loses = absolute chaos

Biden is very far from being completely senile and believing that he is buys into the obsessive media and right-wing mantra that's currently being shouted from the rooftops.

I also think it would be a grave mistake to regard Biden and Trump victories in the election as analogous. Terrible things will happen if Trump wins which absolutely won't happen if Biden wins and I think people shouldn't lose sight of this.
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#49
(07-16-2024, 10:31 AM)WorcsWBA Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 08:55 AM)DemonicBaggie Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:52 PM)albion_pigeon Wrote: No doubt this will give a massive boost to his polling, alongside Biden's complete senility I really fear for Ukraine. USA is heading for a civil war.

Trump wins = absolute chaos
Trump loses = absolute chaos

Biden is very far from being completely senile and believing that he is buys into the obsessive media and right-wing mantra that's currently being shouted from the rooftops.

I also think it would be a grave mistake to regard Biden and Trump victories in the election as analogous. Terrible things will happen if Trump wins which absolutely won't happen if Biden wins and I think people shouldn't lose sight of this.
They are not analogous but if Biden were to win it would be chaos ("stolen election").

The only way out is if Trump were to decease of natural causes. The Republicans are now a Trump cult.  Without Trump does it have a direction and would those that have succumbed within the party move back to a bit of sanity?
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(07-16-2024, 10:31 AM)WorcsWBA Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 08:55 AM)DemonicBaggie Wrote:
(07-14-2024, 04:52 PM)albion_pigeon Wrote: No doubt this will give a massive boost to his polling, alongside Biden's complete senility I really fear for Ukraine. USA is heading for a civil war.

Trump wins = absolute chaos
Trump loses = absolute chaos

Biden is very far from being completely senile and believing that he is buys into the obsessive media and right-wing mantra that's currently being shouted from the rooftops.

I also think it would be a grave mistake to regard Biden and Trump victories in the election as analogous. Terrible things will happen if Trump wins which absolutely won't happen if Biden wins and I think people shouldn't lose sight of this.

No analogy being drawn between Trump / Biden election wins. The point being that if Trump loses in November he and his supporters will in no way accept the result (he has form for this!) and I would foresee widespread public disorder that would make the events of Jan 6 pale into insignificance - hence chaos. Furthermore Trump can't accept defeat for purely legal reasons as his run at the presidency is basically an attempt to avoid facing up to possible convictions and jail time.
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