Corberan

[Huggybear]

Corberan went for a physical midfield and up until they scored we had the better of the play,all be it we didn’t create enough.Kipre obviously fits into the way Corberan wants us to play and that’s moving the ball quicker but both him and Ajayi have mistakes in them as well as no leadership qualities.
It’s interesting but the substitutions bar Sarmiento actually made us worse and the last twenty minutes were shocking.Certainly we didn’t get the balance of the side right ,we went from a physical team with no creativity to a team that weren’t strong enough and were lightweight.
As for the manager,he will live or die by results and he has now had a full pre season to get all his ideas across.

[Stillclem4england]

We can’t afford better
We won’t attract better
We need to be realistic as a fan base

A better balanced first XI can be chosen though Derek. Two mistakes / 90 seconds of shite glosses over the fact that Kipre and Ajayi played like they had never met or seen a football before for over half an hour and the worrying thing is that everyone I spoke to predicted that. Play one perhaps but never both. And as for Nathaniel Fucking Chalobah….

[SuperBob2002]

The absolute state of this Fred. Get a grip, folks.

[Derek Hardballs]

We can’t afford better
We won’t attract better
We need to be realistic as a fan base

A better balanced first XI can be chosen though Derek. Two mistakes / 90 seconds of shite glosses over the fact that Kipre and Ajayi played like they had never met or seen a football before for over half an hour and the worrying thing is that everyone I spoke to predicted that. Play one perhaps but never both. And as for Nathaniel Fucking Chalobah….

The problem is we can say pick him, don’t play him etc but when you boil down the situation we find ourselves in we have a very limited squad to choose from, no money for better and no money to give ourselves options in management, scouting, DoF etc.

[HawkingsHalfpint]

Notwithstanding that Corberan himself is learning and hasn’t yet had the benefit of a full season, is having his playing assets sold off at grossly underwhelming prices, has only been allowed to bring in two unfit players, is lumbered with several overpaid deadwoods, has a mammoth task keeping morale up with all of this going on AND with us being only one game in at what is never the easiest of places to go, do you honestly think we could either afford to sack him, are likely to get a better replacement nor wouldn’t ultimately continue in our revolving-door policy of watching would-be head coaches rip the piss out of us?

Corberan got it slightly wrong yesterday, but he can’t legislate for the individual errors Cuzer rightly surmises killed us during a crazy 60 seconds. There is no need to panic at all after yesterday.

[Peachy]

As much as it boils your piss, it’s one game and he is managing with his hands tied behind his back. The manager is getting the blame for individual mistakes.  If he’d have played Barts/Taylor yesterday they could easily have made stupid errors. If you have average players, expect average results

Luton had a bang average squad last season with one of the smallest budgets in the league. They were however very well organised. Especially defensively. It's all about defensive structure and organisation. We need to work on it. Certainly the mental side. We look timid. There was not one leader along that back line yesterday. Not one. Thats what needs to change.

[igorbalis]

Dose of realism

For 20 minutes we bossed the game and looked sharper all over the pitch

First goal Townsend was sloppy, from the kick off Kipre sold Chalobah massively short and they scored again, Palmer very poor at near post

Kipre wasn’t bad but was at fault, Townsend wasn’t bad but was at fault

When the game opened up we were way too easy to carve open and that was as much down the midfield imbalance than the individual centre half’s

CC has seen them all pre season so he will know the best two available to play at CH
Starting Chalobah over Mowatt, Swift or TGH was a big call and ultimate he got massively wrong

A mad 60 seconds killed us

Cuzer

this, only watched the highlights but so fucking unprofessional, and I can understand the fans frustration, cant say i thought palmer was at fault for either goals really, but that not the point, its easy to be wise with hindsight.

[Birdman1811]

As much as it boils your piss, it’s one game and he is managing with his hands tied behind his back. The manager is getting the blame for individual mistakes.  If he’d have played Barts/Taylor yesterday they could easily have made stupid errors. If you have average players, expect average results

Luton had a bang average squad last season with one of the smallest budgets in the league. They were however very well organised. Especially defensively. It's all about defensive structure and organisation. We need to work on it. Certainly the mental side. We look timid. There was not one leader along that back line yesterday. Not one. Thats what needs to change.

I said earlier in the summer I'd rather have two agricultural, block everything, break legs when something goes wrong types that just get rid of the ball when they do get it over what we currently have. There is no way to build a solid, well organised defence from what we have. And that's what gets you promoted, not attack, that's the step after sorting the defence.

[Peachy]

Dose of realism

For 20 minutes we bossed the game and looked sharper all over the pitch

First goal Townsend was sloppy, from the kick off Kipre sold Chalobah massively short and they scored again, Palmer very poor at near post

Kipre wasn’t bad but was at fault, Townsend wasn’t bad but was at fault

When the game opened up we were way too easy to carve open and that was as much down the midfield imbalance than the individual centre half’s

CC has seen them all pre season so he will know the best two available to play at CH
Starting Chalobah over Mowatt, Swift or TGH was a big call and ultimate he got massively wrong

A mad 60 seconds killed us

Cuzer

this, only watched the highlights but so fucking unprofessional, and I can understand the fans frustration, cant say i thought palmer was at fault for either goals really, but that not the point, its easy to be wise with hindsight.

You say with hindsight but many questioned his line up pre kick off, especially at centre half, and were proved absolutely correct with their concerns. We looked disorganised away at Bolton and shipped 4 with Kipre and Ajayi at centre half. They weren't much better when I saw them at Cheltenham. 

The warning signs were there yet he picked them both. I expect to see both "rested" for stoke and Taylor to play alongside Pieters or Bartley. Here's hoping they take their chance because no way should Kipre be starting next weekend.

[Atomic]

Corberan is creating his own problems to a large extent.

When he took over from Bruce he had a look at what he had in the Sheff Utd game then chose a way of playing and picked the same eleven at every opportunity. He got us paying more attention to detail and we won 9 of the next 10 games. Kept things simple.

Then Phillips got injured and CC started tinkering. First it was Wallace in the ten role, Swift on the left. Then it was Wallace on the left, Albrighton on the right. Results declined.

Now he's messing about again with Molumby as the second striker in a "ten", a completely new central defence, the immobile Chalobah alongside the immobile Yokuslu and over playing from the back.

I believe the problem is, since Guardiola came to England, coaches have got it into their heads that this is the way to play football. What they fail to realise is once most start doing it, it becomes ineffective because only the best are going to succeed at it and we don't have the budget to attract players that are technically superior to other teams in this league.

Football is not about being aesthetically the best team  it's about getting results ultimately