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02-07-2019, 12:57 AM
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Made me properly arf when I read it....now there's a sounbite to get the little islanders slathering at the chops. Fair play....call a cunt a cunt. I'm waiting for the 80's Franke style t-shirts. Tusk says "fuck off". 28 nations vs 1/2 a nation, why would he not.
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dont think that those who advocated brexit are the problem.
theresa may, the government and parliament have way to many that have refused to accept the result.
tusk is a dick though and part of the arrogant mob that led to a leave win in the first place.
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(02-07-2019, 01:03 AM)foreveralbion Wrote: dont think that those who advocated brexit are the problem.
theresa may, the government and parliament have way to many that have refused to accept the result.
tusk is a dick though and part of the arrogant mob that led to a leave win in the first place.
What? Half of them....surprise that. Tusk being a dick is a tiny part of the reason. A quest for true democracy and an opening of trade borders are others. So are Lies, small mindedness, memory of lost empire never known, government policy adversely effecting the poorest but benefiting the wealthy etc etc etc complex issue. Oh and the fact that a nice slice of senior Tory party members do seem to be self centred and self serving cunts who have no concept or care for the real world. Noice!
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(02-06-2019, 10:16 PM)Pickle Rick Wrote: (02-06-2019, 07:23 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: (02-06-2019, 07:02 PM)Pickle Rick Wrote: It was foolish and he made some remarks during the referendum campaign which were inflammatory and if the EU leaders like him had not been so arrogant and complacent the vote would not have been Yes IMHO. So I wouldn't let him off the hook - he is partly responsible for the mess.
Arf you think many of those who voted leave even know who he is?
Brexiteers tripping over themselves to be offended, the same numpties who like to use terms like Snowflake, bang on about family members fighting in the war and freedom of speech.
If any Brexiteer on here can explain what the plan was for when we left please reply below. I've no idea - I know who he is and that he has put his foot in his mouth often - and just as Rees Mogg or anyone else making crass comments is rightly called out so should Tusk etc. Amazed at the excuses being made or the suggestion that leave voters wouldn't know people and remain voters would. Rather stupid arrogance - part of the reason people voted to leave.
What was crass about him calling out the architects of Brexit for not having a plan? It’s the truth and however he said it, be politely or impolitely it will still be the truth.
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I'm with Dekka on this one, and despite asking if anyone knows what the plan was when we were given the shiny new version of the UK there has been very little of substance in the way of a response.
The blank contract analogy is spot on, so is Tusk. Johnson, Gove and Farage should be interviewed in a one hour special without soundbites and asked 'what was the plan?', and what would you have done differently.
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The comments by Tusk was aimed at the snake oil salesmen not the suckers who bought the snake oil.
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(02-07-2019, 10:43 AM)LockHard Wrote: The comments by Tusk was aimed at the snake oil salesmen not the suckers who bought the snake oil.
I really don't buy all the hype that 17M+ people flocked to follow Farage, Boris or Gove, or swooned over a figure on the
side of a bus. Of course some were worried about immigration and sovereignty, but I bet a great many were simply
protesting at the failure of politicians to listen, look or care. Politicians whether in London or Brussels are seen as self
serving and with little or no connect to the normal person in the street.
If Tusk and his cronies had listened to the voices calling for change, if Cameron had bothered to trouble them with
his voice for change, then we might be in a different place right now. Even now, politicians both side of the divide
are more interested in saving face than saving the day and unity. The chaos has not come about by 17m votes, it
has come about by a very few leaders who have shown anything but leadership, and have set about a collision of
ideas when compromise and sensible solutions were easier and less costly to everyone.
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(02-07-2019, 04:10 PM)Beano Wrote: (02-07-2019, 10:43 AM)LockHard Wrote: The comments by Tusk was aimed at the snake oil salesmen not the suckers who bought the snake oil.
I really don't buy all the hype that 17M+ people flocked to follow Farage, Boris or Gove, or swooned over a figure on the
side of a bus. Of course some were worried about immigration and sovereignty, but I bet a great many were simply
protesting at the failure of politicians to listen, look or care. Politicians whether in London or Brussels are seen as self
serving and with little or no connect to the normal person in the street.
If Tusk and his cronies had listened to the voices calling for change, if Cameron had bothered to trouble them with
his voice for change, then we might be in a different place right now. Even now, politicians both side of the divide
are more interested in saving face than saving the day and unity. The chaos has not come about by 17m votes, it
has come about by a very few leaders who have shown anything but leadership, and have set about a collision of
ideas when compromise and sensible solutions were easier and less costly to everyone.
+1
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(02-07-2019, 04:10 PM)Beano Wrote: (02-07-2019, 10:43 AM)LockHard Wrote: The comments by Tusk was aimed at the snake oil salesmen not the suckers who bought the snake oil.
I really don't buy all the hype that 17M+ people flocked to follow Farage, Boris or Gove, or swooned over a figure on the
side of a bus. Of course some were worried about immigration and sovereignty, but I bet a great many were simply
protesting at the failure of politicians to listen, look or care. Politicians whether in London or Brussels are seen as self
serving and with little or no connect to the normal person in the street.
If Tusk and his cronies had listened to the voices calling for change, if Cameron had bothered to trouble them with
his voice for change, then we might be in a different place right now. Even now, politicians both side of the divide
are more interested in saving face than saving the day and unity. The chaos has not come about by 17m votes, it
has come about by a very few leaders who have shown anything but leadership, and have set about a collision of
ideas when compromise and sensible solutions were easier and less costly to everyone. you are quite correct, however that doesn't give middle class snobs or smartarses like Derek the opportunity to sneer at anyone who disagrees with them so it's no good.
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(02-07-2019, 06:30 PM)Sotv Wrote: (02-07-2019, 04:10 PM)Beano Wrote: (02-07-2019, 10:43 AM)LockHard Wrote: The comments by Tusk was aimed at the snake oil salesmen not the suckers who bought the snake oil.
I really don't buy all the hype that 17M+ people flocked to follow Farage, Boris or Gove, or swooned over a figure on the
side of a bus. Of course some were worried about immigration and sovereignty, but I bet a great many were simply
protesting at the failure of politicians to listen, look or care. Politicians whether in London or Brussels are seen as self
serving and with little or no connect to the normal person in the street.
If Tusk and his cronies had listened to the voices calling for change, if Cameron had bothered to trouble them with
his voice for change, then we might be in a different place right now. Even now, politicians both side of the divide
are more interested in saving face than saving the day and unity. The chaos has not come about by 17m votes, it
has come about by a very few leaders who have shown anything but leadership, and have set about a collision of
ideas when compromise and sensible solutions were easier and less costly to everyone. you are quite correct, however that doesn't give middle class snobs or smartarses like Derek the opportunity to sneer at anyone who disagrees with them so it's no good.
If you want to believe the likes of Farage, Mogg, Gove, Johnson, Fox and Davies then good for you. I think they are full of shit but it won’t be them who suffer. Carry on Brexit.
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