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(05-22-2021, 01:37 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Four cases of cases of Covid at my child’s school this week. I’m not convinced the data is keeping up with reality on the ground.
And at the school local to me. I also heard of someone getting covid lately that has had both jabs. Fortunately, she isn't anything like seriously ill. It's still out there guys.
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(05-22-2021, 06:25 PM)Tom Joad Wrote: (05-22-2021, 01:37 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Four cases of cases of Covid at my child’s school this week. I’m not convinced the data is keeping up with reality on the ground.
And at the school local to me. I also heard of someone getting covid lately that has had both jabs. Fortunately, she isn't anything like seriously ill. It's still out there guys.
One of the reasons to get vaccinated is to turn potentially lethal cases into manageable ones. If they're vaccinated then it might well have helped them in that regard.
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05-27-2021, 03:20 PM
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(04-22-2021, 03:37 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
The 1st real change in reduction in numbers in hospital for 4 months has occurred with them pretty much stalling this week. The concern with this is that it comes two weeks after Eid when a number of families would have got together to celebrate and that the increases in hospitalisation is in specific areas that would indicate the get togethers have led to this. This may be one to watch and the date of the 21st June is going to be in the balance because of this i suspect. If we open up fully and replicate the local increases nationally we will have a problem. Basically those local increases have wiped out the rest of the countries decreases.
As for the vaccinations they roll on and look like are needed desperately. I had my 2nd jab yesterday and the chap at the millennium point centre told me they are processing 2k a day now, an excellent piece of organisation. Approaching 75% of the adult population has had the 1st jab and we should hit the 50% mark for both jabs by next week. 30 year olds can now apply to get theirs and my lad is booked in - encourage everyone you know to get theirs.
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I'm seriously hoping there'll be no major hitches re opening up. Protect the NHS wasn't it? Surely we can manage by simply implementing localised measures?
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So long as hospitalisations stay low, we should be fine, but that spike comes slightly after infections.
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05-27-2021, 09:14 PM
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ONS reported that 76% had antibodies as at 3rd May.
2nd jabs will slow in 2 weeks, mirroring slowdown in 1st jabs in April. This should give capacity to increase first jabs. I reckon they will try and vaccinate 12-16 year olds before summer school hols.
I think we are going to have to be careful until mid July until more 2nd jabs given. Only 10% of hospitalisations have had 2 jabs, and I would guess that some of these are people with frailties.
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05-28-2021, 09:04 AM
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(05-27-2021, 09:14 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: ONS reported that 76% had antibodies as at 3rd May.
2nd jabs will slow in 2 weeks, mirroring slowdown in 1st jabs in April. This should give capacity to increase first jabs. I reckon they will try and vaccinate 12-16 year olds before summer school hols.
I think we are going to have to be careful until mid July until more 2nd jabs given. Only 10% of hospitalisations have had 2 jabs, and I would guess that some of these are people with frailties.
Agree with all that KKC, I see that Germany have started giving jabs to kids now so it should be announced soon for us I reckon. People have to realise that there will still be deaths from covid even with both jabs because it isn't giving immunity, it's giving people more of a chance to fight it. But the 10% figure is positive as without the jabs it, in theory, would be many more.
I'm desperate for the restrictions to be removed entirely but I think most people will understand the reasoning behind any delay if the numbers start to go in the wrong direction and we need to put the brakes on for a few more weeks.
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(05-27-2021, 03:20 PM)baggy1 Wrote: (04-22-2021, 03:37 PM)baggy1 Wrote: 16th Sept - 929
23rd Sept - 1,439 (1.55 x previous week)
30th Sept - 2,036 (1.41 x pw)
7th Oct - 3,066 (1.51 x pw)
14th Oct - 4,313 (1.41 x pw)
21st Oct - 6,271 (1.45 x pw)
28th Oct - 9,070 (1.45 x pw)
4th Nov - 11,037 (1.22 x pw)
11th Nov - 12,730 (1.15 x pw)
18th Nov - 14,490 (1.14 x pw)
25th Nov - 14,240 (0.98 x pw)
2nd Dec - 13,212 (0.93 x pw)
9th Dec - 13,467 (1.02 x pw)
16th Dec - 15,465 (1.15 x pw)
23rd Dec - 17,834 (1.15 x pw)
30th Dec - 22,713 (1.27 x pw)
6th Jan - 27,727 (1.22 x pw)
13th Jan - 32,689 (1.18 x pw)
20th Jan - 33,886 (1.04 x pw)
27th Jan - 30,846 (0.91 x pw)
3rd Feb - 26,374 (0.86 x pw)
10th Feb - 20,926 (0.79 x pw)
17th Feb - 16,458 (0.79 x pw)
24th Feb - 13,007 (0.79 x pw)
3rd Mar - 9,594 (0.74 x pw)
10th Mar - 6,945 (0.73 x pw)
17th Mar - 5,397 (0.77 x pw)
24th Mar - 4,005 (0.74 x pw)
31st Mar - 3,084 (0.77 x pw)
7th April - 2,486 (0.81 x pw)
14th April - 1,972 (0.79 x pw)
21st April - 1,609 (0.82 x pw)
28th April - 1,278 (0.79 x pw)
5th May - 1032 (0.81 x pw)
12th May - 907 (0.88 x pw)
19th May - 757 (0.83 x pw)
26th May - 745 (0.98 x pw)
2nd June - 801 (1.08 x pw)
The 1st real change in reduction in numbers in hospital for 4 months has occurred with them pretty much stalling this week. The concern with this is that it comes two weeks after Eid when a number of families would have got together to celebrate and that the increases in hospitalisation is in specific areas that would indicate the get togethers have led to this. This may be one to watch and the date of the 21st June is going to be in the balance because of this i suspect. If we open up fully and replicate the local increases nationally we will have a problem. Basically those local increases have wiped out the rest of the countries decreases.
As for the vaccinations they roll on and look like are needed desperately. I had my 2nd jab yesterday and the chap at the millennium point centre told me they are processing 2k a day now, an excellent piece of organisation. Approaching 75% of the adult population has had the 1st jab and we should hit the 50% mark for both jabs by next week. 30 year olds can now apply to get theirs and my lad is booked in - encourage everyone you know to get theirs.
Following on from last weeks plateau this week is showing a small increase in numbers with an 8% rise in those in hospital in England. With the relaxation at stage 3 on the 17th May we are now seeing two weeks later a small increase in hospitalisations which will probably see the final relaxation due in 3 weeks being delayed if it continues like this. It would be interesting to see a breakdown in ages and vaccinated / not vaccinated numbers to get a view on who is being affected.
The hope that we have is the vaccine rollout being continued in the same way for the under 30s as it has for those over. So far we are at 75% of the adult population having had 1st doses and 50% having had both. 18 to 30 accounts for about 20% of the population and there appears to be a good interest from that age group so we should get to over 85% at this rate if only half of them take the offer up.
One of those turning point moments but I would be very surprised if the government allow the removal of restrictions on the 21st if nothing changes.
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Can't see the removal of restrictions on the 21st, I'm not optimistic for any kind of summer. Quite how they seem to have fucked it up again is staggering.
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I think it's early days to see it as a fuck up but as restrictions ease we have seen what difference each stage has made - this was the appropriate way of managing the easing out of lockdown. Having got that right IMO and also having done a great job in rolling out the vaccine they have dropped an almighty bollock with allowing people into the country from countries such as India when we knew they were in trouble. It was clear weeks ago that once the world was showing signs of a third / fourth or whichever wave that we needed have really strict controls on the borders, we basically installed a fantastic alarm system and improved the locks on all the doors and windows but just left the patio windows open for anyone to walk in.
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