Going well…

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

Correct Rich

Correct Ted

[Derek Hardballs]

Offering more of the same failed Tory policies, refusing to rock the boats of the richest, going after the poorest and most vulnerable, chasing Reform and disaffected Tory voters, dividing people into various categories such as ‘working’ NIMBY, racist, far left/right, and offering no hope to millions, whilst riding roughshod over the opinions of people in local areas, isn’t the recipe for success the Centrist Dads thought it would be. 

At some point, in May/June the Labour Party will have to face up to the fact they are toast with Starmer and this Sunak-lite tribute act.

Once again I am here to remind you that the last time a Labour party had a leader and a manifesto centred around the points in your post they were defeated in three separate elections by a batshit mental Tory party. This is not what this country wants.

Ted, they didn’t want Corbyn and Momentum or the huge baggage they brought with them. Many of the policies were popular, for example a wealth tax currently has 75% support in the latest poll. The fact you still seem to think Corbyn was an asset rather than a hindrance is why we ended up with a fugging awful Tory party. 

The fact is Labour didn’t win the last election the Tories scored own goal after own goal whilst pissing off most of the country in the way to handing Labour victory. The idea that people voted for watered down Conservative policies at the last election and that they saw that as genuine ‘change’ is wide of the mark!

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Correct Rich

Correct Ted

Middle-aged, Centrists are literally sleep walking to political defeat. This isn’t 1997 and more of the same offered by Labour under Starmer as what was offered under Sunak shows how out of touch many are. Carry on pretending it’ll all be ok, carry on underestimating the rise of the Greens, Plaid and Reform, it’ll bite you massively on the arse, and at best we will end up with a hung parliament.

[richbaggie]

I think Reform will retain their core vote no matter how badly they do managing councils and generally shooting themselves in the foot (which they undoubtedly will). However, the vast majority of core vote won't give two hoots about how they perform at local level, or what their overall plans are. They are interested in one thing and one thing only abd that's immigration. It's Brexit all over again. If you ask a Reform voters what Reforms other plans are, they invariably can't give you an answer and don't really care because to them, nothing is more important than immigration.

But, I do think those that are politically homeless right now  will tactically vote to ensure Reform don't get into their constituency.

For "immigration" you can read "racism" really. No other conclusion can reasonably be drawn about those who support policies which include deporting people who've legally been here for years.

  You have summed up nicely why Reform are growing.  Not everyone worried about immigration is a swivel eyed racist.  Yes, there are plenty of racists amongst the support, you see and hear that more and more but calling everyone a racist that has concerns is a big reason why we ended up with Brexit.

[WorcsWBA]

I think Reform will retain their core vote no matter how badly they do managing councils and generally shooting themselves in the foot (which they undoubtedly will). However, the vast majority of core vote won't give two hoots about how they perform at local level, or what their overall plans are. They are interested in one thing and one thing only abd that's immigration. It's Brexit all over again. If you ask a Reform voters what Reforms other plans are, they invariably can't give you an answer and don't really care because to them, nothing is more important than immigration.

But, I do think those that are politically homeless right now  will tactically vote to ensure Reform don't get into their constituency.

For "immigration" you can read "racism" really. No other conclusion can reasonably be drawn about those who support policies which include deporting people who've legally been here for years.

  You have summed up nicely why Reform are growing.  Not everyone worried about immigration is a swivel eyed racist.  Yes, there are plenty of racists amongst the support, you see and hear that more and more but calling everyone a racist that has concerns is a big reason why we ended up with Brexit.

I stick by my opinion that anyone who supports any policy whereby people who've lived legally in this country for a long time should be deported is a racist. The shameful popularity of Reform has encouraged those who would previously have joked about racism and/or said "I'm not a racist but..." to be greatly emboldened, falling yet again for Reform's lies and exaggerated rhetoric, just like they did with Brexit.

[Derek Hardballs]

Thankfully Reform have decided that what Nottingham Council need to spend their squeezed budgets on is £72k worth of flags… yep flags ffs!

[Squid]

I think Reform will retain their core vote no matter how badly they do managing councils and generally shooting themselves in the foot (which they undoubtedly will). However, the vast majority of core vote won't give two hoots about how they perform at local level, or what their overall plans are. They are interested in one thing and one thing only abd that's immigration. It's Brexit all over again. If you ask a Reform voters what Reforms other plans are, they invariably can't give you an answer and don't really care because to them, nothing is more important than immigration.

But, I do think those that are politically homeless right now  will tactically vote to ensure Reform don't get into their constituency.

For "immigration" you can read "racism" really. No other conclusion can reasonably be drawn about those who support policies which include deporting people who've legally been here for years.

There is a small, yet significant minority who have been radicalised online into increasing amounts of racism. What else can say about a cancer charity getting racist abuse:

https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/charity-fa...le/1936511

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

I think Reform will retain their core vote no matter how badly they do managing councils and generally shooting themselves in the foot (which they undoubtedly will). However, the vast majority of core vote won't give two hoots about how they perform at local level, or what their overall plans are. They are interested in one thing and one thing only abd that's immigration. It's Brexit all over again. If you ask a Reform voters what Reforms other plans are, they invariably can't give you an answer and don't really care because to them, nothing is more important than immigration.

But, I do think those that are politically homeless right now  will tactically vote to ensure Reform don't get into their constituency.

For "immigration" you can read "racism" really. No other conclusion can reasonably be drawn about those who support policies which include deporting people who've legally been here for years.

  You have summed up nicely why Reform are growing.  Not everyone worried about immigration is a swivel eyed racist.  Yes, there are plenty of racists amongst the support, you see and hear that more and more but calling everyone a racist that has concerns is a big reason why we ended up with Brexit.

I stick by my opinion that anyone who supports any policy whereby people who've lived legally in this country for a long time should be deported is a racist. The shameful popularity of Reform has encouraged those who would previously have joked about racism and/or said "I'm not a racist but..." to be greatly emboldened, falling yet again for Reform's lies and exaggerated rhetoric, just like they did with Brexit.

Plus one

[Middlemore rd]

I think Reform will retain their core vote no matter how badly they do managing councils and generally shooting themselves in the foot (which they undoubtedly will). However, the vast majority of core vote won't give two hoots about how they perform at local level, or what their overall plans are. They are interested in one thing and one thing only abd that's immigration. It's Brexit all over again. If you ask a Reform voters what Reforms other plans are, they invariably can't give you an answer and don't really care because to them, nothing is more important than immigration.

But, I do think those that are politically homeless right now  will tactically vote to ensure Reform don't get into their constituency.

For "immigration" you can read "racism" really. No other conclusion can reasonably be drawn about those who support policies which include deporting people who've legally been here for years.

  You have summed up nicely why Reform are growing.  Not everyone worried about immigration is a swivel eyed racist.  Yes, there are plenty of racists amongst the support, you see and hear that more and more but calling everyone a racist that has concerns is a big reason why we ended up with Brexit.

I stick by my opinion that anyone who supports any policy whereby people who've lived legally in this country for a long time should be deported is a racist. The shameful popularity of Reform has encouraged those who would previously have joked about racism and/or said "I'm not a racist but..." to be greatly emboldened, falling yet again for Reform's lies and exaggerated rhetoric, just like they did with Brexit.

Thats why brexit got in and reform will the next election its like you never learn time and time again when you spout stuff like that worc .....no offence meant by the way everyone is allowed an opinion., just  because some see the world differently to you doesnt make them wrong .

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

Do you think if that happens and they win an outright majority they will be successful and everyone will feel they’ve delivered China?

Genuine question

[Middlemore rd]

Do you think if that happens and they win an outright majority they will be successful and everyone will feel they’ve delivered China?

Genuine question

No but you simply dont listen to normal everyday voters .
You didnt about brexit then the political elite tried everything to water it down so its crap .

You called the tories all racists etc and they got in .

Once again you are doing the same for reform you simply dont get it that you trying to call every day joe on the street racists and gammon and flag shaggers just because they dont like what the government are doing especially on immigration.....so carry on doing what you are doing because you are going to lose again because you think you are above the everyday bloke on the street .