Mandelson

[Derek Hardballs]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Not really it shows woeful judgement yet again by the PM and his advisers that he was employed in the first place.

[strawman]

Phase 2

I have confidence
I have confidence
I have confidence
I have confidence
I have confidence
Oh fuck 

[baggy1]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Not really it shows woeful judgement yet again by the PM and his advisers that he was employed in the first place.

At least that a shorter Starmerage than normal Dekka, can you try to keep them all this length for your own healths sake going forward. I didn't comment at the time of appointment as it didn't feel right but it did have a horses for courses feel to it and may ultimately have helped in the tariff debate which benefitted the country. However, he's gone and the Beeb are now talking about about an 'astonishing attrition rate' when it's in fact 2 gone.

Maybe I should start a Proth style thread saying I was right he'd be gone by the weekend.

[Jacko]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

[CIM]

But the grown ups are now in charge

[baggy1]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

Get over yourself. Is this the point where I make reference to a sexual act between you and Dekka, or something about me living rent free - I'm not sure on how these 'debates' are meant to go now.

[Protheroe]

Any Labour Leader unwilling to address the fundamental problems facing the country was doomed to fail. I did predict on here that Labour would be the most unpopular government in history within 18 months. Constantly shooting yourself in the foot is not helping either.

Your view of the fundamental problems have never wavered whatever the government and for however long. The slashing and burning of the Cameron/Osborne government was exactly what you and the classical liberals were advocating at a time when Nobel prize winning economists were suggesting the exact opposite policy. This was the midwife of BREXIT and the economic and social divsion that has literally ravaged the country. You also gave your full throated support to a party that has never taken the responsibility for 14 of the last 15 disastrous years. It practically sent your mentor Steve Baker into nervous breakdown. As far as Mandelson is concerned I do feel some sympathy for him, he wasn't the most well known figure that was completely taken in by Epstein. If you don't undertsand how abusers like Epstein and Saville operate you don't undertsand anything. Don't forget your Maggie was taken in by Saville, should her remains be dug up and thrown in a skip.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/articl...7fw6v0qdfg

When I talk about fundamental problems I'm not referring to the notion that we should stop overall spending rising by quite as much as happened 2010-15.

That is not fundamental reform.

As it is you and your like have had your way for the last ten years and we are more indebted and taxed than ever, with inflation and unemployment on the rise and no apparent plan to address any of these four issues. What do your Nobel prize winning economists say now? Even more of the same? Good luck with that.

[Derek Hardballs]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

Get over yourself. Is this the point where I make reference to a sexual act between you and Dekka, or something about me living rent free - I'm not sure on how these 'debates' are meant to go now.

Dragging me into the conversation again I see.

[baggy1]

You quoted Ponti's post with the word THIS. When it ended with an utterly ridiculous defence of Mandelson, the nonce apologist. Does that make you a nonce apologist apologist?

The This related to Proths antics over time. Sorry to have given you false hope that you had something to attack me for.

And it appears that Starmer has now got rid of Mandelson so panic over chaps.

Selective.

Anyway appears he's gone. More great judgement by the guy who brought you the housing secretary who doesn't pay enough SDLT. The homelessness minister who made people homeless. The corrupt anti-corruption minister and the fraudster Transport secretary. Due process for the win.

Get over yourself. Is this the point where I make reference to a sexual act between you and Dekka, or something about me living rent free - I'm not sure on how these 'debates' are meant to go now.

Dragging me into the conversation again I see.

Just as an equivalence reference, don’t get yourself worked up

[man in the corner shop]

So the ambassador will not be having his Ferrero Roche from now on