Burnham

[Middlemore rd]

“Keep up the debate lads i won't engage much as the days of getting involved of being bitter are long gone . Heart“

You ok hun x

[Jacko]

Burnham's biggest impediment to becoming the leader of Labour is that he needs to be a MP and i don't think there is a constituency that they can currently win in a by election.

I'd like to know why political sages on here believe Streeting can't be leader, because whatever it is Streeting appears to be unaware of it, given he is continually on manoeuvres.

Would be a fantastic watch though, to see them manufacture a by-election and then lose it to Reform.

[Ted Maul]

Burnham's biggest impediment to becoming the leader of Labour is that he needs to be a MP and i don't think there is a constituency that they can currently win in a by election.

I'd like to know why political sages on here believe Streeting can't be leader, because whatever it is Streeting appears to be unaware of it, given he is continually on manoeuvres.

Streeling is like all the worst bits of Starmer without any of the vague good bits. Have you heard the bloke speak? He's got about as much authority as a primary school supply teacher.

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

<taps nose for Wes ITK>

Burnham in at 4s but as long as 7s in places

[Gzbaggy]

Burnham's biggest impediment to becoming the leader of Labour is that he needs to be a MP and i don't think there is a constituency that they can currently win in a by election.

I'd like to know why political sages on here believe Streeting can't be leader, because whatever it is Streeting appears to be unaware of it, given he is continually on manoeuvres.

Would be a fantastic watch though, to see them manufacture a by-election and then lose it to Reform.

They can then send him to the Lords and make him leader!

Who was the last PM from the House of Lords, was it Salisbury?

[strawman]

Burnham's biggest impediment to becoming the leader of Labour is that he needs to be a MP and i don't think there is a constituency that they can currently win in a by election.

I'd like to know why political sages on here believe Streeting can't be leader, because whatever it is Streeting appears to be unaware of it, given he is continually on manoeuvres.

Would be a fantastic watch though, to see them manufacture a by-election and then lose it to Reform.

They can then send him to the Lords and make him leader!

Who was the last PM from the House of Lords, was it Salisbury?

Alec Douglas-Home I think but he renounced his peerage and became an MP

[Tom Joad 25]

Now Burnham has been mentioned, prepare for the dirty tricks departments of all the usual suspects to start digging up disinformation.

[Protheroe]

They don't give a shit about capability to govern.

Oh they will soon. Believe me.

If they didn't moan during the period 2010-2024 then they can fuck off pretending they give a shit now.

I moaned at lot, so did most on here. Issue is that the consequences of all that legacy are coming home to roost now as debt and inflation. 

The UK is virtually impossible to govern when neither public nor politicians are willing and capable of making the choices to deal with either of the above.

[Shabby Russian]

Burnham's biggest impediment to becoming the leader of Labour is that he needs to be a MP and i don't think there is a constituency that they can currently win in a by election.

I'd like to know why political sages on here believe Streeting can't be leader, because whatever it is Streeting appears to be unaware of it, given he is continually on manoeuvres.

Would be a fantastic watch though, to see them manufacture a by-election and then lose it to Reform.

I'd resent Reform winning a milky way chocolate bar in a Tombola.

[Derek Hardballs]

They don't give a shit about capability to govern.

Oh they will soon. Believe me.

If they didn't moan during the period 2010-2024 then they can fuck off pretending they give a shit now.

I moaned at lot, so did most on here. Issue is that the consequences of all that legacy are coming home to roost now as debt and inflation. 

The UK is virtually impossible to govern when neither public nor politicians are willing and capable of making the choices to deal with either of the above.

Hmm…

Didn’t you campaign for the party that contributed massively to the problems for what a 5,8,10 yrs? 

Didn’t you campaign for Brexit, that has made the country poorer and more divided than it has been for years. 

You are now saying the public won’t accept the situation we are in and that they should all just accept being poorer, with less public services. Without ever explaining what happens to those this would effect and who or what will address those problems in the future. You cut money for SEND, those kids don’t to use a Tory phrase ‘just shut up and go away’ they become the disengaged kids in class, the kids who drop out of school, the kids that may then get into trouble with antisocial behaviour etc, or they simply can’t get a job as they have had no help to do so. You cut the police (hi Theresa) and then petty and serious  crime escalates and people no longer want to spend time and money in town centres (hello half the towns in the BC) etc 

Every time you suggest slashing and burning budgets to services, you never come back with a solution beyond taking financial support away or making people pay directly for support which means many thousands if not millions can’t. You have no joined up thinking, it won’t save money it’ll mean pressure will be put on other services or the goodwill of society and what happens when that runs out? They start turning to parties like Reform who offer simple and divisive solutions to societal problems.

You relied during Brexit on people voting to make themselves poorer and now you want them to accept being poorer still whilst protecting the interests of the most wealthy in society.