Sandwell Councillor defects to Reform

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I'm not on board with MrP's economics and he has been proved absolutely wrong on BREXIT, but he has said nothing wrong on this thread. Many of you antizionist river to the sea mob accept harmful myths about Israel but you should recognise that HAMAS bullshit propaganda rests on demonstrable falsehoods and dubious data, claims of famine, deliberate civilian killings and genocide in Gaza, is just used to demonise and delegitimise the world’s only Jewish state and you've fallen it for hook line and sinker.

Here is footage of a 16 year old boy being shot dead, today in the West Bank by Israeli settlers.
The settlers are likely to face no legal or criminal consequences whatsoever for this, because the Israeli state view this behaviour as acceptable:

https://x.com/i/status/2000896388469596173

Yet you accuse others of falling for propaganda.


Proth - the Israeli state and the useful idiots who support them are the ones constantly conflating world Jewry with Israel.

Calling protests you don't like "hate marches" is banal and unconvincing.

As is claiming that we need to give the thumbs up to the genocide of Palestinians and Israel destabilising the whole region otherwise people will vote Reform.

I have to say that's just about the most facile post I've read on here for a while, and wholly ignorant of the day to day safety concerns of many of your fellow British citizens. 

You don't give a damn that my friends' kids are educated in a virtual prison, you don't care that my mate's son has been relentlessly harassed on campus at Liverpool University - that's the same mate whose friend was murdered in Manchester btw. You don't have an ounce of sympathy for the lived experience of British Jews anywhere in the UK.

The laundering of antisemitism (conscious or otherwise) by Western progressives as "opposition to Israel" means that you can't see our free liberal and tolerant society is the frog in the pot, slowly being boiled. 

And nowhere (again) have I said or implied that "we need to give the thumbs up to the genocide of Palestinians".

Proth,

You write grossly offensive screeds talking about "graduations of innocence" when discussing the killing of children and yet accuse others of lacking sympathy. 

People said on here months ago that Israel's barbaric actions and their insistence that they were conducting those actions on behalf of the global population of Jews, would only make  Jews more unsafe. You called anyone saying that antisemitic and then said as you always do "What did you expect Israel to do?", which 1) Completely ignores the fact the genocide is inexcusable and 2) that Israel has been killing Palestinian children long before October 2023 and continues to kill children in the West Bank (which is not a war zone, yey oddly none of those children made it into your list of innocents either)

You call publicly-expressed objections to Israel's actions "hate marches". In fact, pretty much anyone objecting to what Israel is doing gets called antisemitic, hateful or stupid by you. 
So if you wish to eliminate all publicly expressed opposition to the genocide in Gaza and you frequently argue that Israel had no other choice, what else can that be but a big thumbs up to the genocide of Palestinians? The only way you could possibly argue otherwise is if, like Ponti, in the face of considerable evidence to the contrary,  you deny that any such genocide is taking place. 

To be clear, I don't believe anyone should be harassed on campus and I find it tragic that children in Jewish schools require such high levels of security. But allowing Israel free rein to massacre Palestinians will not make any of that better. And all the supposed "Friends of Israel" who claim otherwise and so vocally, really, really aren't friends of the Jewish people at all.