11-06-2024, 04:08 PM
(11-06-2024, 04:02 PM)Baggiejacko Wrote:(11-06-2024, 03:45 PM)Birdman1811 Wrote:(11-06-2024, 03:14 PM)Baggiejacko Wrote: Farage would be nothing if the previous lot or current ones did their jobs. Democrats made same mistake as we're going to. No one asked the Yanks what they wanted. If they did they ignored the answers they got. 4 years will fly by. Coming to a land mass near you unless things change
What do people want?
They can't always have it, and sometimes it's not what's actually going to work? And it may not be what others want.
I want a liberal, modern, diverse place to live. I want people to have good education with absolutely no mention of religion other than purely as old myths. I want fair and equal choice as people leave school to go into further education or apprentice to a trade, both are valuable.
I want good healthcare free at point of need for all, I also think, rationally, that healthcare needs to make some hard choices, and certain things have to be done privately since they aren't under the remit of the NHS. I also want the NHS reformed a fair bit.
I want a good, sensible safety net for people put of work, and also the ability for those unable to work due to disability and ill health to be able to survive without unnecessary struggle. Those in work should enjoy the fruits of their labour by fair and representative pay that allows them to live, not just barely survive.
I have no issue with immigration, it needs control and I want the gangs selling spaces on boats to people who are just wanting a better life to be stopped and in prison. Me ruining prison, I want a fair and just justice system that rehabilitates where it can, and punishes where needed.
All these things are complex and simple.slogams.dony cover them, they need well thought out plans which take time and effort.
Simple catch line phrases that don't really explain anything don't do it for me, and therefore the likes.of Farage does not, and never will represent me.
Have you ever considered that others might live in different circumstances and want different changes as a result? Personally I think Trump is a swivel eyed loon that made me feel ill watching him gloat this morning but I haven't lived in America the last 8 years so don't know how it is for up to half their population. This country is very Liberal but some are having to cope with the results more than others. Wrongly they identify causes for their struggles and react. Nearly 200 of about 300 inhabitants of the Bibby Stockholm were recently spirited to Wolverhampton. Do you think the citizens were consulted about it? Do you think Bridgnorth or Ironbridge was ever considered as a destination for them? 99.9% of people are tolerant till pushed to the edge. Virtually no one says chuck em all out or ban em all lots are now saying hold on a minute it's getting out of control now. Control is all the majority are calling for despite other claims on here
That's sort of my point

Thing is, slogans and promises of a quick fix based on them doesn't solve anyone's issues.

