05-11-2022, 02:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-11-2022, 02:07 PM by Derek Hardballs.)
(05-11-2022, 12:23 PM)TTM2 Wrote:(05-11-2022, 11:52 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:(05-11-2022, 11:27 AM)TTM2 Wrote: Not everyone had the luxury of locking themselves in the house for months at a time. For starters, the ones who did would’ve starved.
Quite and many of those have had to live a torrid life where their family members don’t know whether they would bring a virus home that could seriously harm or kill their child, mother or father etc. Once furlough stopped or their employee demanded they worked they were left with this choice with little or no support.
(05-11-2022, 11:01 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Precisely. You're seeking to impose your personal circumstances on everyone else, and that's simply not acceptable Dekka. In fact it's exceptionally selfish and destructive to society.
I sympathise with your circumstances, but life is not fair.
Don’t lecture me on selfishness, how you can have the brass neck to do so given your record of I’m alright Jack attitude over the years. Also don’t assume it’s about my personal circumstances it’s not it’s for those I work with or know who faced those problems.
My “lockdown” lasted 4 days when we worked out construction carried on, so off we went, little passes in hand. And thank god we did.
Considering we are a tightly packed, overpopulated island our figures are nowhere near the politically motivated doomsday being touted, the facts back this up. There’s no scientific evidence that any further lockdown actions would’ve done a thing.
I recall the screaming for a lockdown in January, the “Johnson variant” as it was touted. Turned out to be completely and utterly wrong.
I never asked for further lockdowns, it was suggested that very simple things like some social distancing and mask wearing was a small ask until as many people as possible could be vaccinated and that included children under 12 who were at risk from the virus. It wasn’t those families or their children who decided to leave them until every other group had had chance to be vaccinated before they were offered it. Most of Europe, Canada and US had been vaccinating younger at risk children for at least 3-6mths.
(05-11-2022, 02:03 PM)baggy1 Wrote: There is a fair bit of revisionist history going on this thread. I'd love to join in but it's fair to say that 'lockdowns' (we only had one real full lockdown) came about at the time of rising hospitalisations and initially deaths - they were needed at that point in time, they aren't now. Without lockdowns we would have been at a much higher level of excess deaths and let's not try and rewrite what has happened to justify any daft ideas at the time.
And let's not get confused between government incompetence in putting a education / school program in place that would have allowed kids back and protected teachers at the same time, or chucking the virus into care homes to help out with hospital numbers and the limitations on our lives at the time.
And it's very easy to say many won't be affected but the frontline workers have to deal with, whilst risking their health, to deal with the raised number that did get affected.
Bit of context here folks - lockdowns, at the time, were needed.
Quite.