General Election Allsorts
#41
The workers right guarantees were in the original binding agreement, they’ve been moved to the political declaration (non binding). If they’re not going to be watered down why not leave them in the agreement. But like you say we need to see the evidence in black and white before we commit.

When would you like the referendum, before the GE or after?
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#42
(10-25-2019, 11:57 AM)baggy1 Wrote: The workers right guarantees were in the original binding agreement, they’ve been moved to the political declaration (non binding). If they’re not going to be watered down why not leave them in the agreement. But like you say we need to see the evidence in black and white before we commit.

When would you like the referendum, before the GE or after?

China doesn't want a referendum because as an ardent Brexiteer he's worried the result may go the other way now people better informed on the subject. He would far rather have an election secure in the knowledge that he thinks the Tory's will romp home. I suspect we shall see a tiny minority government for Bullshit Boris or another hung parliament particularly when the October the 31st date passes and the swivel eyed no deal Brexiteers start swooning after the Brexit Ltd Company and their complete lack of any manifesto. Crank up the air raid sirens wooooooo, woooooo!
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#43
I've asked for proof off here as your so well informed of the watered down workers rights ...........where is the proof in black and white ....(taps desk once again )
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#44
(10-25-2019, 12:41 PM)The liquidator Wrote: I've asked for proof off here as your so well informed of the watered down workers rights ...........where is the proof in black and white ....(taps desk once again )

Where's the proof that this government will respect workers rights?
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#45
Dont answer a question with a question .......now once again where is the proof in black and white or dont you have any ...

Taps fingers on desk
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#46
(10-25-2019, 12:46 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(10-25-2019, 12:41 PM)The liquidator Wrote: I've asked for proof off here as your so well informed of the watered down workers rights ...........where is the proof in black and white ....(taps desk once again )

Where's the proof that this government will respect workers rights?

Playing devil's advocate here but if Tories wanted to strip workers of their rights surely the first step would be to reduce them to the EU minimum which I understand are considerably weaker than ours. This has been in the gift of Cameron/May and now Boris for 9 Years. Conversely, should Corbyn win an election what's to stop him imposing a 90% higher rate tax band, introduce a property tax and steal people's assets and savings via inheritance tax? Asking for a friend.
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#47
(10-25-2019, 12:46 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(10-25-2019, 12:41 PM)The liquidator Wrote: I've asked for proof off here as your so well informed of the watered down workers rights ...........where is the proof in black and white ....(taps desk once again )

Where's the proof that this government will respect workers rights?

If you don't trust the government to respect your rights, you vote the fuckers out. You don't outsource domestic policy to a foreign body because we can't be trusted to govern ourselves.
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#48
Still tapping desk
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#49
(10-25-2019, 01:37 PM)The liquidator Wrote: Still tapping  desk

Here...

Not from The Guardian, the BBC, or any other supposedly left-leaning source; an independent, cross-party organisation. Pay particular attention to the paragraph headed 'The Government’s promises go further than its proposed legislation does'.

The Government has made a “commitment not to reduce the standards of workers’ rights from EU laws retained in UK law”. However, the draft WAB clauses would not constrain this government, or a future government, from legislating to reduce workers’ rights.

Instead, the clauses would oblige ministers to make a statement, before the Second Reading of a Government Bill, that the bill will not remove any “pre-exit EU workers’ right”. If they could not do that, then ministers would have to make a statement that the Government wishes to proceed with the bill nevertheless.

The clauses would also oblige ministers to report to Parliament every six months on any new workers’ rights introduced by the EU, and put a motion before the house on what the Government intends to do about them. Parliament could then express a view about whether those new EU rights should be incorporated into UK law or not. However, the government would not be legally obliged to take any notice.

Or, to put it another way, weasel words and cop-out clauses just ready to be exploited when convenient by any government with a commons majority. How do they know this? By going through the documentation with fine tooth combs, that's how. It's what they do; it's what parliament also needs to do.
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#50
Let's see how much holiday they are going to take off us and maternity leave ..........let's see it the figures in black and white .
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