The return of Burnham?
#31
And you warned us all against populist politicians, yet here we are
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#32
(01-25-2026, 08:32 PM)baggy1 Wrote: And you warned us all against populist politicians, yet here we are

and yet you voted to elect a principle free Henry Hoover as the Labour Party leader…
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#33
I voted for Labour based on what was on offer and most importantly what the alternative was. You have spent years moaning about everything and offering no credible alternative. You were absolutely solid on your dislike of populism until it suits you now. You are a hypocrite.
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#34
(01-25-2026, 08:38 PM)baggy1 Wrote: I voted for Labour based on what was on offer and most importantly what the alternative was. You have spent years moaning about everything and offering no credible alternative. You were absolutely solid on your dislike of populism until it suits you now. You are a hypocrite.

You are mixing up popular with populist. People like Burnham and his work as the Manchester mayor shows he’s a competent leader. Sadly people think Starmer has no values and is not likeable or a good leader. You are getting very arsy about this… your unpopular, dull, u-turning, principle free man has headed off the threat to his premiership… rejoice in that.
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#35
As I saidm
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#36
So what policies do you like then? You spend your time criticising Proth when you are his greatest fan through imitation. Avoid the questions you don’t like and never admit being wrong.
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#37
Back to the matter in hand, whatever anyone thinks of Burnham, blocking him from running as an MP looks very weak and makes Starmer look more insecure, not less. It's concerning that decision-makers in the Labour Party couldn't see that.
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#38
(01-25-2026, 09:38 PM)baggy1 Wrote: So what policies do you like then? You spend your time criticising Proth when you are his greatest fan through imitation. Avoid the questions you don’t like and never admit being wrong.

What questions have I avoided? What would you like me to admit I was "wrong" about? 

I could say you were very "wrong" about campaigning for the utterly useless cardboard cut-out who now inhabits Downing Street. But you weren't "wrong", you just believed he was the #LeastWorst outcome, even though most of his decisions have proven awful.

(01-25-2026, 10:11 PM)Squid Wrote: Back to the matter in hand, whatever anyone thinks of Burnham, blocking him from running as an MP looks very weak and makes Starmer look more insecure, not less. It's concerning that decision-makers in the Labour Party couldn't see that.

The matter in hand is not the latest psychodrama in the Labour Party. It's whether the distraction of Bodybags back in Parliament is good for the country.
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#39
I have a lot of time for Burnham and always felt he was a leader in waiting but his decision to seek nomination to fight the Gorton and Denton by-election has greatly disappointed me. One of the reasons I voted for Labour 2 years ago was because I wanted sober stable government after 8 years of chaos. I get that most of the country don't like Starmer but he's doing well on the international stage and I, for one, don't want the government being distracted from the job at hand by psychodramas being played out in Westminster - and there would be, no doubt of that. I was watching Newscast on Thursday night when Gwynne's resignation came through and Chris Mason could barely conceal his delight at the scenario it presented.
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#40
Exactly my thoughts chasetown. We need steady at the moment and avoid the media driven dramas. An example the NHS waiting list had a record drop recently and the mirror reports ‘waiting times get worse at some hospitals’.

Burnham was voted in as mayor for 4 years and is half way through. With everything going on globally the last thing we need is internal drama and foot shooting.
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