Patents of high schoolers

[MrBater]

So, it's the classic, go to a top uni meet the right people and amazingly previously unknown doors get opened. Not a lot to do with what you know, but who... It's the kind of thing that would set Dekka off...

From that point of view going to uni has benefits.

Also what if you want to set up the Worlds best origami woven baskets??

[Kit Kat Chunky]

My daughter is just finishing her degree. She then wanted to do a Masters, but couldn't find the correct course, so she is doing a PHD for 3 years. Three more years of Bank of Mum & Dad (although she does a part time job), a lifetime of debt, and probably a career as a professional student.

[Gzbaggy]

I actually know a heap about this as my wife used to be very senior in a not for profit body that analysed the careers of post graduates. Whenever there was any new surveys etc on all things graduate her boss, who is a Huddersfield fan(4-1 to the Albion), was on BBC news, Sky etc and ended up getting an OBE for his work.

Simply if you want a high flying career as a corporate slave at a big city law firm or accountants etc then you have to go to a premier university. If you end up studying Origami and Basket Weaving at the University of Newport Pagnall etc you've pissed 3 years up the wall.

The top firms only appear at the careers fairs at Russell Group etc.

As for the value of degrees, you will generally get better opportunities with a degree rather than A levels, whilst also leaving at 16 and doing some college course will leave you just with the fodder, in the main.

Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but trust me, I've read a heap on this, spoke to learned academics on this subject, including the aforementioned Huddersfield chap, and a degree is still worth something, but not what it was.

Having said all that though, I think the education system is so so shit in this country. It doesn't set people up for a career at all and it's still the plummy wankers who will get most of the best jobs.

By the way, I currently have a daughter who is a 2nd year at one of the top 10 unis in the country doing history. My son is doing A'Levels.

My daughter has met loads of people from public schools, and others who can help, has a great social circle and has become hugely independent. That's worth a lot- I'm sure she'll go to London next year.

I'd hope my son at least gets decent A'levels and in the meantime learns to boil an egg.
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Give us a link to the Post Graduate research, I am intrigued to how it was done. The vast majority of Post Graduate students are from overseas.

[Hughie Reed 31]

I actually know a heap about this as my wife used to be very senior in a not for profit body that analysed the careers of post graduates. Whenever there was any new surveys etc on all things graduate her boss, who is a Huddersfield fan(4-1 to the Albion), was on BBC news, Sky etc and ended up getting an OBE for his work.

Simply if you want a high flying career as a corporate slave at a big city law firm or accountants etc then you have to go to a premier university. If you end up studying Origami and Basket Weaving at the University of Newport Pagnall etc you've pissed 3 years up the wall.

The top firms only appear at the careers fairs at Russell Group etc.

As for the value of degrees, you will generally get better opportunities with a degree rather than A levels, whilst also leaving at 16 and doing some college course will leave you just with the fodder, in the main.

Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but trust me, I've read a heap on this, spoke to learned academics on this subject, including the aforementioned Huddersfield chap, and a degree is still worth something, but not what it was.

Having said all that though, I think the education system is so so shit in this country. It doesn't set people up for a career at all and it's still the plummy wankers who will get most of the best jobs.

By the way, I currently have a daughter who is a 2nd year at one of the top 10 unis in the country doing history. My son is doing A'Levels.

My daughter has met loads of people from public schools, and others who can help, has a great social circle and has become hugely independent. That's worth a lot- I'm sure she'll go to London next year.

I'd hope my son at least gets decent A'levels and in the meantime learns to boil an egg.
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Spandau I agree with some of your observations but must say all of my kids (3) went to high ranking universities despite coming from a typical working class background ie me a rag arsed welded from Smethwick and it true to say they certainly made contacts with the plummy wankers you refer too
But they all had to work really hard to achieve the positions they are at now.

[DemonicBaggie]

Depends what they want to do and if a degree is required.  If not, then no. 

And I can’t see the point of a degree in say, art, other than spending 3 years fucking around.

Our country is renowned and respected globally for its contribution to the Creative Arts. Something to be genuinely proud of.

[Spandaubaggie]

I actually know a heap about this as my wife used to be very senior in a not for profit body that analysed the careers of post graduates. Whenever there was any new surveys etc on all things graduate her boss, who is a Huddersfield fan(4-1 to the Albion), was on BBC news, Sky etc and ended up getting an OBE for his work.

Simply if you want a high flying career as a corporate slave at a big city law firm or accountants etc then you have to go to a premier university. If you end up studying Origami and Basket Weaving at the University of Newport Pagnall etc you've pissed 3 years up the wall.

The top firms only appear at the careers fairs at Russell Group etc.

As for the value of degrees, you will generally get better opportunities with a degree rather than A levels, whilst also leaving at 16 and doing some college course will leave you just with the fodder, in the main.

Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but trust me, I've read a heap on this, spoke to learned academics on this subject, including the aforementioned Huddersfield chap, and a degree is still worth something, but not what it was.

Having said all that though, I think the education system is so so shit in this country. It doesn't set people up for a career at all and it's still the plummy wankers who will get most of the best jobs.

By the way, I currently have a daughter who is a 2nd year at one of the top 10 unis in the country doing history. My son is doing A'Levels.

My daughter has met loads of people from public schools, and others who can help, has a great social circle and has become hugely independent. That's worth a lot- I'm sure she'll go to London next year.

I'd hope my son at least gets decent A'levels and in the meantime learns to boil an egg.
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Spandau I agree with some of your observations but must say all of my kids (3) went to high ranking  universities despite coming from a typical working class background ie me a rag arsed welded from Smethwick and it true to say they certainly made contacts with the plummy wankers you refer too
But they all had to work really hard to achieve the positions they are at now.

As I said I can only go on the stuff I heard and saw, but, of course, bright working class kids have got on. I do wonder now though if it's harder than ever as social mobility isn't what it was.

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I actually know a heap about this as my wife used to be very senior in a not for profit body that analysed the careers of post graduates. Whenever there was any new surveys etc on all things graduate her boss, who is a Huddersfield fan(4-1 to the Albion), was on BBC news, Sky etc and ended up getting an OBE for his work.

Simply if you want a high flying career as a corporate slave at a big city law firm or accountants etc then you have to go to a premier university. If you end up studying Origami and Basket Weaving at the University of Newport Pagnall etc you've pissed 3 years up the wall.

The top firms only appear at the careers fairs at Russell Group etc.

As for the value of degrees, you will generally get better opportunities with a degree rather than A levels, whilst also leaving at 16 and doing some college course will leave you just with the fodder, in the main.

Of course there's exceptions to the rule, but trust me, I've read a heap on this, spoke to learned academics on this subject, including the aforementioned Huddersfield chap, and a degree is still worth something, but not what it was.

Having said all that though, I think the education system is so so shit in this country. It doesn't set people up for a career at all and it's still the plummy wankers who will get most of the best jobs.

By the way, I currently have a daughter who is a 2nd year at one of the top 10 unis in the country doing history. My son is doing A'Levels.

My daughter has met loads of people from public schools, and others who can help, has a great social circle and has become hugely independent. That's worth a lot- I'm sure she'll go to London next year.

I'd hope my son at least gets decent A'levels and in the meantime learns to boil an egg.
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Give us a link to the Post Graduate research, I am intrigued to how it was done. The vast majority of Post Graduate students are from overseas.

https://ise.org.uk/

This is the body. They represent a lot of big wig employers. It's several years since my wife left, but we hobnobbed at conferences with the HR guys of all the big banks, industrial giants etc.

Basically they were looking for clones of themselves, and most of them were privileged.

[CaptainFantastico]

The eldest is off to uni in September but she is very academically driven and has chosen well in terms of going somewhere that will add a lot of value on top, I believe.

My youngest is already saying he would prefer a work based route (even though he’s academically strong) because school bores the fuck out of him

[Ally's Balls]

We live in a very rural area. Most kids around here went to university except farmers kids who carry on working on the family farms. We've got one son who didn't want to go to university so went down the apprenticeship route which included doing a degree and got paid at the same time so no debt.
Our daughter decided she wanted to go university but not in the UK. She went to UBC Vancouver. The locals have nicknamed It The university of a Billion Chinese.It took five years for her degree, a year in work. It's a different system there where she took 30 different modules for her biology degree. Some of those modules included things like learning Japanese, wine appreciation ,film reviews.
Unfortunately now she's living over there with her boyfriend ?

[Hughie Reed 31]

We live in a very rural area. Most kids around here went to university except farmers kids who carry on working on the family farms. We've got one son who didn't want to go to university so went down the apprenticeship route which included doing a degree and got paid at the same time so no debt.
Our daughter decided she wanted to go university but not in the UK. She went to UBC Vancouver. The locals have nicknamed It The university of a Billion Chinese.It took five years for her degree, a year in work. It's a different system there where she took 30 different modules for her biology degree. Some of those modules included things like learning Japanese, wine appreciation ,film reviews.
Unfortunately now she's living over there with her boyfriend ?

One of my daughters did her PHD overseas (USA) luckily for me she got a scholarship so cost me a lot less than it would have over here. Her opinion of the US system is the rich kids get to do what ever they want as there parents just fund it, the price 5 years ago was around $80.000 a year she also said a lot of them were thick as pigshit !!!
Like your daughter she has decided to stay and make her life there.

We do get good holidays thou hoping to visit Vancouver next year as she based in Seattle about 2 hour drive away.