Covid Vaccination ID

[backsidebaggie]

Of course you are being paranoid, you think that the government are trying to introduce a digital id when they are trying to introduce an easy way for people to prove they have been vaccinated so that they don't then have to get tested to get into concerts, festivals etc.

These systems are already in place, i have an NHS id that shows my history of vaccinations, if I want to go back to the far east I would need to be vaccinated for many other diseases.

We can't stay in lockdown forever and unfortunately if hospitalisations start to rise it will be too late to do anything other than lockdown. Until people realise that the virus transmits to wherever it can get a foothold (and it will get a better foothold in someone that isn't vaccinated) then we won't reduce it back to background noise.

There were so many people claiming that we wouldn't have a wave in the winter last August and September, and we had reached herd immunity only for them to disappear or change their tune by deleting their social media history when it happened as was predicted. You can make as many predictions as you like, but there is one basic fact, if hospitalisations start to go up because spread is occurring then it is already too late and will take weeks beyond that point to control it. The best way of controlling it before then is to make sure that we have as much protection against transmission as possible. One of those tools is vaccination and if people don't take up the option in enough numbers don't be surprised if we end up in another lockdown.

Your trust in the government is simply amazing Baggy1! I think its literally an incredibly easy way of bringing in a digital ID! Here's an equally "paranoid" Guardian writer who believes the same:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...-passports

We do not have a system in place that coerces people into being vaccinated and allows for the restriction of liberties for those who don't want the vaccine or can't have it. Many people pointed that out this morning on this thread. Its totally different. And I must say again, Johnson has literally moved the goalposts on this a number of times. From "not needing it to go to the pub, only foreign travel", to "landlords might ask for it", and now Gove is looking at mandating it, if the press are to be believed. So you go ahead and trust them, I think you're mad but each to their own. They keep moving the goalposts.

Your last paragraph highlights my point perfectly - the next lockdown will be blamed on those who don't want the vaccine. This is going to get poisonous later in the year IMO.

I won't be surprised at all by the way, I'm literally expecting it, as I predicted earlier! In fact I said the same a few weeks ago, along with Nick, and we were told the difference now is the huge vaccination programme so there shouldn't be another lockdown. We were called doom mongerers.

Now we require a certain level of uptake (despite there being huge uptake in the over 50s, which account for 99% of deaths!). Goalposts have also moved on vaccinating kids. That wasn't going to be required. Now it is.

But "the science" will say that's it, the goalposts will have moved, and last months "science" will be conveniently forgotten. It keeps happening and will continue to.