The Queen's Speech
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(04-06-2020, 08:15 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: I wondered if she'd mention the war. Surely there has to be a time when people who lived through it can stop banging on about it and trying to make us youngsters feel guilty or inferior for not having been there.

I remember a quote from Pete Townshend. "All we got when we were kids was people telling us how they'd fought a war for us. Even worse, they'd fucking won it!".

I also remember a lyric by the, now, 74 years old Townsend. “Hope I die before I get old.”!

Most blokes who served during the First or Second World Wars didn’t “bang on about it”. In fact most hardly mentioned it for decades. I have never felt any old person, certainly not my Regular Soldier dad or Home front mother, has tried to make me feel guilty or inferior. Most of them have always expressed the hope that we never have to go through such a war.
If any do now reminisce, I think we should remember it was a time of heightened emotions and probably the time they felt most alive. I think it only natural that they think back to that time. After all we on here “bang on” about past Baggies glories, games and teams we remember.
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(04-06-2020, 10:32 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote: Good point - the only time my grandfather mentioned his experiences, it was about his training/posting in N Ireland and swapping his chocolate (he worked for Cadbury's before - and after - so I guess most have got sent some sort of ration) for other stuff and enjoying his time there. And that was more or less it. And same with his brothers - they were happy to be out of it.

I'm guessing that's because you were talking to people who loved you! It was a constant refrain at the time. Not sure they meant to make anyone feel inferior, but there was a definite 'frustration' at the way the world and their own position in it was changing and they didn't like it. Same as always and me for the next 40 years (hopefully!) I expect. The world changes and people get left behind.

I remember Bruce Hornsby telling me about the time the great philosopher Paul Young was talking to Jim davidson. Jim was moaning about not getting enough respect. Paul said (approximately) "We had our turn, we took somebody else's place and now they've taken ours. That's the way it is. Some thing's never change".

Bruce was quite inspired by this. He went off and made a career out of it. Which was nice.
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#23
(04-06-2020, 11:50 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 11:29 AM)fuzzbox Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 10:32 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote: Good point - the only time my grandfather mentioned his experiences, it was about his training/posting in N Ireland and swapping his chocolate (he worked for Cadbury's before - and after - so I guess most have got sent some sort of ration) for other stuff and enjoying his time there. And that was more or less it. And same with his brothers - they were happy to be out of it.

I'm guessing that's because you were talking to people who loved you! It was a constant refrain at the time. Not sure they meant to make anyone feel inferior, but there was a definite 'frustration' at the way the world and their own position in it was changing and they didn't like it. Same as always and me for the next 40 years (hopefully!) I expect. The world changes and people get left behind.

I remember Bruce Hornsby telling me about the time the great philosopher Paul Young was talking to Jim davidson. Jim was moaning about not getting enough respect. Paul said (approximately) "We had our turn, we took somebody else's place and now they've taken ours. That's the way it is. Some thing's never change".

Bruce was quite inspired by this. He went off and made a career out of it. Which was nice.

Why then was I not spared the saga by one of how he lost every single one of his teeth?

Good quote re Bruce.

Too much Cadbury's chocolate?
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#24
(04-06-2020, 08:15 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: I wondered if she'd mention the war. Surely there has to be a time when people who lived through it can stop banging on about it and trying to make us youngsters feel guilty or inferior for not having been there.

I remember a quote from Pete Townshend. "All we got when we were kids was people telling us how they'd fought a war for us. Even worse, they'd fucking won it!".
Bitch about survivors of the horrors of war and highlight the ramblings of a suspected paedophile who admitted logging on to a child porn website ffs.
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(04-06-2020, 02:29 PM)Baggiejacko Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 08:15 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: I wondered if she'd mention the war. Surely there has to be a time when people who lived through it can stop banging on about it and trying to make us youngsters feel guilty or inferior for not having been there.

I remember a quote from Pete Townshend. "All we got when we were kids was people telling us how they'd fought a war for us. Even worse, they'd fucking won it!".
Bitch about survivors of the horrors of war and highlight the ramblings of a suspected paedophile who admitted logging on to a child porn website ffs.

I did think the same...
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#26
Hoy Liz........


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#27
Here it is, in all of it's glory.

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#28
(04-06-2020, 11:29 AM)fuzzbox Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 10:32 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote: Good point - the only time my grandfather mentioned his experiences, it was about his training/posting in N Ireland and swapping his chocolate (he worked for Cadbury's before - and after - so I guess most have got sent some sort of ration) for other stuff and enjoying his time there. And that was more or less it. And same with his brothers - they were happy to be out of it.

I'm guessing that's because you were talking to people who loved you! It was a constant refrain at the time. Not sure they meant to make anyone feel inferior, but there was a definite 'frustration' at the way the world and their own position in it was changing and they didn't like it. Same as always and me for the next 40 years (hopefully!) I expect. The world changes and people get left behind.

I remember Bruce Hornsby telling me about the time the great philosopher Paul Young was talking to Jim davidson. Jim was moaning about not getting enough respect. Paul said (approximately) "We had our turn, we took somebody else's place and now they've taken ours. That's the way it is. Some thing's never change".

Bruce was quite inspired by this. He went off and made a career out of it. Which was nice.

In the words of the song 'Every generation blames the one before'  Cool
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#29
(04-06-2020, 03:18 PM)strawman Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 11:29 AM)fuzzbox Wrote:
(04-06-2020, 10:32 AM)Pickle Rick Wrote: Good point - the only time my grandfather mentioned his experiences, it was about his training/posting in N Ireland and swapping his chocolate (he worked for Cadbury's before - and after - so I guess most have got sent some sort of ration) for other stuff and enjoying his time there. And that was more or less it. And same with his brothers - they were happy to be out of it.

I'm guessing that's because you were talking to people who loved you! It was a constant refrain at the time. Not sure they meant to make anyone feel inferior, but there was a definite 'frustration' at the way the world and their own position in it was changing and they didn't like it. Same as always and me for the next 40 years (hopefully!) I expect. The world changes and people get left behind.

I remember Bruce Hornsby telling me about the time the great philosopher Paul Young was talking to Jim davidson. Jim was moaning about not getting enough respect. Paul said (approximately) "We had our turn, we took somebody else's place and now they've taken ours. That's the way it is. Some thing's never change".

Bruce was quite inspired by this. He went off and made a career out of it. Which was nice.

In the words of the song 'Every generation blames the one before'  Cool

Mike Rutherford and B.A. Robertson should have been charged  over that record.
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