Cedric

[Wednesburybaggie]

Watching Burnley on tv, and seeing O'Shea playing for them, I wonder if we hadn't have sold him, would Kipre be getting game time! I feel Kipre is the better defender of the two, quicker, stronger, and much better in the ball. Dara probably better in the air, but all in all, quite glad we sold him now.

[Stars n stripes]

I was thinking that myself ,have we missed O'Shea?.Well I certainly thought so after the first few matches this season, but Carlos quickly sorted our defensive problems out and our goals against seem to suggest that we Don't miss him .He's obviously had a torrid time this season along with the rest of the team but he's still a very good player .

[SW4Baggie]

I was thinking that myself ,have we missed O'Shea?.Well I certainly  thought so after the first few matches this season, but Carlos quickly sorted our defensive  problems out and our goals against seem to suggest that we Don't miss him .He's obviously  had a torrid time this season along with the rest of the team but he's still a very good player .

Carlos is excellent at defensive shape and organisation. Our shape is always praised by opposition managers so regardless of who we had at the back, he would have gotten us solid. Our defensive record considering the number of enforced CB hes had to deal with is outstanding.

O’Shea is a decent defender, good in the air, faster than you think, and comfortable on the ball. I do believe he could be a PL player, and alongside Kipré he’d have been excellent here, but Kompany cannot organise that defence. They got away with it last season due to their attacking talent.

[Remi_Moses]

We should never be worried about selling players for good money.
It's all about getting people to step up or finding a new cheaper replacement.
Let our recruitment dept find the hidden gems.
To be sustainable IMO (reminomics) we need to get a transfer surplus of £15-£20 a season.

[Cuzer]

I’d say you’ve got that massively the wrong way round

Kipre is better in the air and O’Shea is comfortably quicker, he was registered in one of the fastest 5 players in the Prem this season which is madness fir a centre half

Kipre is a better defender for me and it’s imperative we try and get him signed to this contract

Cuzer

[Dumbo]

Unpopular opinion

I thought Dara was a little overrated by our fan base. Decent enough but not as good as most made out. Got a lot of slack because he was ‘one of our own’.

[SW4Baggie]

I’d say you’ve got that massively the wrong way round

Kipre is better in the air and O’Shea is comfortably quicker, he was registered in one of the fastest 5 players in the Prem this season which is madness fir a centre half

Kipre is a better defender for me and it’s imperative we try and get him signed to this contract

Cuzer

Never said that Cuz, I said that Dara is deceptively quick. I think Kipré is more than capable in the air,  but Dara read the game better IMO. Reason he was such a danger in the opposition box at set pieces was his ability to get in front of his man and find the right place.

Him and Kipré together would have been an excellent partnership.

[Leicesterbaggie]

We should never be worried about selling players for good money.
It's all about getting people to step up or finding a new cheaper replacement.
Let our recruitment dept find the hidden gems.
To be sustainable IMO (reminomics) we need to get a transfer surplus of £15-£20 a season.

Shouldn’t be too difficult making a surplus of that sum if we don’t buy any players ??. Price of a kids season ticket so should help sustain us.

[MGalea]

To be fair to O'shea he is 3 years younger and Kipre is entering prime age for centre halves.

Compare O'shea in 3 years to Kipre this season and we'll see.

Kipre has been unbelievable this season but was poor for us two years ago.

[Cheshire East Baggie]

I'm bemused by the suggestion that Kipre wouldn't get game time. You really think Bartley, Pieters or Ajayi would be ahead of him?

Let's not reinvent Barts as the new McAuley or Olsson. He's had as many nightmare games as brilliant ones over the years and he doesn't bounce back from injury. Dara and Kipper could have been a storming combination, but finances are what they are.

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To be fair to O'shea he is 3 years younger and Kipre is entering prime age for centre halves.

Compare O'shea in 3 years to Kipre this season and we'll see.

Kipre has been unbelievable this season but was poor for us two years ago.

The way I remember it, Kipre had settled into a steady back three for Ismael. We weren't conceding huge numbers of goals. Bruce dropped him immediately after a brief conversation with Livermore, during which the players' cabal exerted its influence. Cedric was sent to sit on the naughty step with Mowatt 'cos the players didn't like Ismael's pets.

Big Sam called it right, there was something malign about the squad in those days. CC has done well to flush that out.