Good news, guys
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Phew.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66417103
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#2
Good to see we are prioritising the big decisions the country needs to take...

I have sympathy with the authorities here... if payments for wrongful conviction are made based on the potential earnings the claimant could have earned had they not been in jail, it's only right to also factor in the cost of living they would have faced had they not lived at His Majesty's pleasure. Wording it as living expenses and billing a cost of accommodation is bloody hopeless PR, but it's not the Prison Service's fault somebody has been wrongly convicted and their costs need to be covered!

Awarding someone £1m for wrongful conviction and then awarding the prison £100k for wrongfully occurred living costs is the same result as awarding somebody £1.1m and then making them pay £100k to the Prison Service.
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(08-06-2023, 11:38 AM)SW4Baggie Wrote: Good to see we are prioritising the big decisions the country needs to take...

I have sympathy with the authorities here... if payments for wrongful conviction are made based on the potential earnings the claimant could have earned had they not been in jail, it's only right to also factor in the cost of living they would have faced had they not lived at His Majesty's pleasure. Wording it as living expenses and billing a cost of accommodation is bloody hopeless PR, but it's not the Prison Service's fault somebody has been wrongly convicted and their costs need to be covered!

Awarding someone £1m for wrongful conviction and then awarding the prison £100k for wrongfully occurred living costs is the same result as awarding somebody £1.1m and then making them pay £100k to the Prison Service.

This. It's simply a badly worded phrase.
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(08-06-2023, 11:38 AM)SW4Baggie Wrote: Good to see we are prioritising the big decisions the country needs to take...

I have sympathy with the authorities here... if payments for wrongful conviction are made based on the potential earnings the claimant could have earned had they not been in jail, it's only right to also factor in the cost of living they would have faced had they not lived at His Majesty's pleasure. Wording it as living expenses and billing a cost of accommodation is bloody hopeless PR, but it's not the Prison Service's fault somebody has been wrongly convicted and their costs need to be covered!

Awarding someone £1m for wrongful conviction and then awarding the prison £100k for wrongfully occurred living costs is the same result as awarding somebody £1.1m and then making them pay £100k to the Prison Service.

Absolute tosh. 

That is like asking someone to pay for the internment in Auschwitz. The government wrongly imprisoned someone, his choice where to live and what to pay was taken away from him - his human rights were violated.
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(08-06-2023, 12:52 PM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:
(08-06-2023, 11:38 AM)SW4Baggie Wrote: Good to see we are prioritising the big decisions the country needs to take...

I have sympathy with the authorities here... if payments for wrongful conviction are made based on the potential earnings the claimant could have earned had they not been in jail, it's only right to also factor in the cost of living they would have faced had they not lived at His Majesty's pleasure. Wording it as living expenses and billing a cost of accommodation is bloody hopeless PR, but it's not the Prison Service's fault somebody has been wrongly convicted and their costs need to be covered!

Awarding someone £1m for wrongful conviction and then awarding the prison £100k for wrongfully occurred living costs is the same result as awarding somebody £1.1m and then making them pay £100k to the Prison Service.

Absolute tosh. 

That is like asking someone to pay for the internment in Auschwitz. The government wrongly imprisoned someone, his choice where to live and what to pay was taken away from him - his human rights were violated.

I’m glad you agree with me, and that anyone in this situation deserves appropriate recompense, and part of that calculation is based on an award that would reflect what they’d have earned during this period had they not been incarcerated. 

What I am saying is simply that in the case of a wrongfully imprisoned person, the prison service’s already underfunded budget needs to be compensated too, and that it should come from the authorities that have wrongfully incarcerated someone, and if those compensation awards were worded such that it wasn’t the victim making the payment this would be a non story. 

Let’s not use the comparison of being wrongfully imprisoned being the same as concentration camps. There is a difference between a mistake and the wilful obliteration based on race, creed or sexuality.
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(08-06-2023, 01:27 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:
(08-06-2023, 12:52 PM)BurleyBaggie Wrote:
(08-06-2023, 11:38 AM)SW4Baggie Wrote: Good to see we are prioritising the big decisions the country needs to take...

I have sympathy with the authorities here... if payments for wrongful conviction are made based on the potential earnings the claimant could have earned had they not been in jail, it's only right to also factor in the cost of living they would have faced had they not lived at His Majesty's pleasure. Wording it as living expenses and billing a cost of accommodation is bloody hopeless PR, but it's not the Prison Service's fault somebody has been wrongly convicted and their costs need to be covered!

Awarding someone £1m for wrongful conviction and then awarding the prison £100k for wrongfully occurred living costs is the same result as awarding somebody £1.1m and then making them pay £100k to the Prison Service.

Absolute tosh. 

That is like asking someone to pay for the internment in Auschwitz. The government wrongly imprisoned someone, his choice where to live and what to pay was taken away from him - his human rights were violated.

I’m glad you agree with me, and that anyone in this situation deserves appropriate recompense, and part of that calculation is based on an award that would reflect what they’d have earned during this period had they not been incarcerated. 

What I am saying is simply that in the case of a wrongfully imprisoned person, the prison service’s already underfunded budget needs to be compensated too, and that it should come from the authorities that have wrongfully incarcerated someone, and if those compensation awards were worded such that it wasn’t the victim making the payment this would be a non story. 

Let’s not use the comparison of being wrongfully imprisoned being the same as concentration camps. There is a difference between a mistake and the wilful obliteration based on race, creed or sexuality.

or based on mental health or to perform sick experiments on twin children.  The Nazis were complete and utter cunts.
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#7
There is a rule to remember when comparing something to the holocaust.

Don't compare anything to the holocaust.
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#8
(08-06-2023, 02:54 PM)Arti Wrote: There is a rule to remember when comparing something to the holocaust.

Don't compare anything to the holocaust.

This. The fact this needs to be said concerns me.
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