01-13-2022, 08:07 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2022, 08:12 PM by Lillwall's left foot.)
(01-13-2022, 07:54 PM)Tom Joad Wrote:Lillwall's left foot Wrote:Protheroe Wrote:Borin' Baggie Wrote:Protheroe Wrote:Someone needs to say it, so I will.
We wouldn't have ended up with Boris as PM at all if too many MPs on all sides hadn't made it their primary aim to frustrate Brexit. The now largely unemployed Uber-Remainer MPs need to own the monster they helped to create as much as I do.
I largely agree. If the Lib Dems had backed the EFTA option in the indicative votes then May wouldn't have been subject to a VONC.
Though this has to be counteracted by the equal lack of any level of compromise from a lot of the pro-Brexit lot, the failure to clearly define the outcome even to this day and that even people who wanted compromise. The result being; the actions of both sides entrenching the other.
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SophLad Wrote:Protheroe Wrote:Someone needs to say it, so I will.
We wouldn't have ended up with Boris as PM at all if too many MPs on all sides hadn't made it their primary aim to frustrate Brexit. The now largely unemployed Uber-Remainer MPs need to own the monster they helped to create as much as I do.
You've posted some utter shite on this board lad but you've outdone yourself there.
Only the hard of thinking would believe that when the truth is staring them in the face. Hurts, doesn't it?
Remainers created Boris! Ok....not the Tory members or voters at large. Its an interesting view, but then your world view is so myopic you must trip over your own feet. Hard of thinking! Utter arse. Just own it. You created it. You supported it. It is your representation out into the world.
I was staying out of this one. Brexit is done to death on here, no one is changing their mind anytime soon. But, in my opinion, that is exactly what happened. He wasn't previously ever a serious candidate for the leaders job, mainly due to his dubious history. It was simply the creation of that vacuum that gave us this prime minister.
I was suprised we were back knocking on that door as well. However, it must stress it was the situation that gave him the OPPORTUNITY. It was UKIP lite members that cast the votes. I have a friend, Conservative card holder and staunch leaver as he feels the EU is unconstitutional, lacking in democratic value and accountability. He was and is aghast at the Boris fiasco. Still can't believe he's PM. There were other options and other paths to take.