01-13-2022, 10:35 AM
(01-13-2022, 10:21 AM)Birdman1811 Wrote:(01-13-2022, 10:19 AM)baggy1 Wrote:(01-13-2022, 10:10 AM)Sotv Wrote:(01-12-2022, 05:10 PM)AmsterdamBaggie Wrote:(01-12-2022, 04:32 PM)Cunninghamismagic Wrote: Eh? Simply saying I wouldn't trust any of them.
Which is a naive and a simplistic way of viewing politics, and allows the tories to stay in power
The problem is that whilst the Tories may be crap, Starmer still hasn't got his message beyond "I'm not Boris" out to the general public.
Many still see the labour party as the one who fought the last election, their social media warriors really don't help in this respect either.
The general public doesn't really know what Labour now stand for, with so many of the previous leadership suppoerters being so vocal online it also makes it really difficult for the new team to show them they are different.
Starmer has been in a difficult position with covid dominating things but he really does need to get his communication strategy sorted out.
A Blair style communicator would have wiped the floor with this lot by now.
And herein lies the problem, if we get a serious politician that pulls together some serious pledges it's boring. What you are asking for is another entertainer, despite everything you have seen with this entertainer, you want someone to crack jokes and take the piss and win in the banter stakes.
It's about time we forgot about the public face of the politicians and looked at their actual work. Boris has promised the earth and delivered the square root of fuck all of those promises, in fact just the opposite, he's outright lied - No NI border, easiest deal ever with the EU, Australia deal will not lower standards, farmers will get the same as when in the EU, Northern powerhouse to be delivered, levelling up (as long as you vote for me), etc etc etc.
And still we need a showman to outdo him rather than look for our selves at what the serious politician can do. And if we got a serious politician that just got on with it and didn't clamour for the limelight, we might just be able to deal with the real problems.
Agree.
Problem is, the general public want an entertainer, they want a show, that's the modern world, it's shit, but it's only going to get worse in that regard.
I don't mind an entertainer in normal times. Before all this shit started, I enjoyed the pantomime of BJ & Trump. One thing both Brexit and Covid has taught me though is that politics is serious, and should be treated as such.