Boris Johnson

[Kit Kat Chunky]

Sunak's gig

I won't vote for him until his wife pays UK tax on her earnings.

Half of our problems are caused by his actions as Chancellor. Summed up well by Mervyn King today.

The problems Mervyn King talks about were baked by Mervyn King & Gordon Brown, sautéed by Mark Carney and George Osborne et al. Sunak is presented with the resulting dish.

Only higher taxes and reduced spending will do. I hope he’s brave enough to bite the bullet even if his electoral chances will be zero.

It's what it needs, Proth. I don't disagree with your point of view, btw.

[Derek Hardballs]

Elephant in the room… wtf is left to cut? Seriously how poor do public services have to get and how badly do people have to be treated before there is a line drawn?

Schools are running out of money if reports are correct.
The NHS is at breaking point with thousands of jobs not filled
The Police cut thousands of jobs and are now trying to replace them with inexperienced twenty somethings
Youth Services barely exist but no joined up thinking is applied to getting young people off the street to do something positive
Social Care is on its knees with staff paid a pittance, so many aren’t fit to be in those carers roles

You cut those services anymore and you simply create more problems for other public services to pick up. There is no joined up thinking to austerity its a blunt instrument that has seen nothing but slow growth, wrecked lives and ideological glee from the right (wrong) kind of people.

[SophLad]

Elephant in the room… wtf is left to cut? Seriously how poor do public services have to get and how badly do people have to be treated before there is a line drawn?

Schools are running out of money if reports are correct.
The NHS is at breaking point with thousands of jobs not filled
The Police cut thousands of jobs and are now trying to replace them with inexperienced twenty somethings
Youth Services barely exist but no joined up thinking is applied to getting young people off the street to do something positive
Social Care is on its knees with staff paid a pittance, so many aren’t fit to be in those carers roles

You cut those services anymore and you simply create more problems for other public services to pick up. There is no joined up thinking to austerity its a blunt instrument that has seen nothing but slow growth, wrecked lives and ideological glee from the right (wrong) kind of people.

There will bo no honest conversation held with the electorate about the choices ahead of the government. But it would be a fantastic way to create division.

[Protheroe]

The answer is that we’ll all have to pay more for shit, whether through taxes or private provision. You can’t have the public sector largesse you want without paying for it yourself - there simply aren’t enough rich people to soak. Starmer also knows this.

[Ossian]

I'd like to see those at the lower end pay more tax. No need to hike the 20% rate; they could do it if they were paid more.

I wonder what the net effect of, say, a £1.50/hour increase in the minimum wage would be, once increased tax revenues and a reduction in working tax credits were factored into the equation. We need to stop accepting that being a low wage economy is unavoidable.

Does anybody have access to the treasury's modelling software?

[hudds]

Does anybody have access to the treasury's modelling software?

I do but it's bost.  It was chewed by the rats from the HMRC side of 100 Parliament Street.

[Tom Joad]

I'd like to see those at the lower end pay more tax. No need to hike the 20% rate; they could do it if they were paid more.

I wonder what the net effect of, say, a £1.50/hour increase in the minimum wage would be, once increased tax revenues and a reduction in working tax credits were factored into the equation. We need to stop accepting that being a low wage economy is unavoidable.

Does anybody have access to the treasury's modelling software?

Wasn't that something Boris was promising? A high wage economy? We have been through a pandemic and now have a war in Europe,  add to that the energy crisis and need for renewable sources, I think most are realistic enough to accept a small tax increase is necessary. But let the government assume some fiscal responsibility also. This borrowing money for day to day expenses is far from ideal. Borrow to invest by all means, but I fear this government will just cut services and there will be no sign of the promised high wage economy.

[Derek Hardballs]

The answer is that we’ll all have to pay more for shit, whether through taxes or private provision. You can’t have the public sector largesse you want without paying for it yourself - there simply aren’t enough rich people to soak. Starmer also knows this.

Many people can’t afford to pay more. What’s the plan for them?

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I'd like to see those at the lower end pay more tax. No need to hike the 20% rate; they could do it if they were paid more.

I wonder what the net effect of, say, a £1.50/hour increase in the minimum wage would be, once increased tax revenues and a reduction in working tax credits were factored into the equation. We need to stop accepting that being a low wage economy is unavoidable.

Does anybody have access to the treasury's modelling software?

Wasn't that something Boris was promising? A high wage economy? We have been through a pandemic and now have a war in Europe,  add to that the energy crisis and need for renewable sources, I think most are realistic enough to accept a small tax increase is necessary. But let the government assume some fiscal responsibility also. This borrowing money for day to day expenses is far from ideal. Borrow to invest by all means, but I fear this government will just cut services and there will be no sign of the promised high wage economy.

Boris lies

[Tom Joad]

The answer is that we’ll all have to pay more for shit, whether through taxes or private provision. You can’t have the public sector largesse you want without paying for it yourself - there simply aren’t enough rich people to soak. Starmer also knows this.

Many people can’t afford to pay more. What’s the plan for them?

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I'd like to see those at the lower end pay more tax. No need to hike the 20% rate; they could do it if they were paid more.

I wonder what the net effect of, say, a £1.50/hour increase in the minimum wage would be, once increased tax revenues and a reduction in working tax credits were factored into the equation. We need to stop accepting that being a low wage economy is unavoidable.

Does anybody have access to the treasury's modelling software?

Wasn't that something Boris was promising? A high wage economy? We have been through a pandemic and now have a war in Europe,  add to that the energy crisis and need for renewable sources, I think most are realistic enough to accept a small tax increase is necessary. But let the government assume some fiscal responsibility also. This borrowing money for day to day expenses is far from ideal. Borrow to invest by all means, but I fear this government will just cut services and there will be no sign of the promised high wage economy.

Boris lies

I knew that as he said the words. But I believe it is possible with the will to do it.

[Loanee]

What job did Boris get in Rishi’s cabinet?