Pigs
#1
Don't come on here often, but maybe it's safe now that the playground bully SOTV has got me on ignore.

This business about the pigs seems to be a real and happening thing. Many at the Tory Conference are trying to say it's just propaganda, fake news, just business trying to put pressure on about immigrant labour. But I'm convinced.

So what will we get? Hundreds or even thousands of tons of pig meat wasted. Farmers' businesses devastated, leading to hardship as well as reduced capacity in future years. Supermarket shelves filled with imported pork products. Repeat this scenario across many other sectors of the food production chain in the UK.

But still the stupid flag-waving British public are giving Boris the benefit of the doubt. Did they really vote for this?
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#2
As someone who works closely with this industry, it’s 100% true Chesh… I spoke at a conference a couple weeks ago and you could see the pain farmers were suffering back then. It’s been flagged to the government many, many times but they’ve been met with nothing but silence.

Had the government even bothered to answer their phones this could have been avoided, but now it looks like a lot of healthy animals will be culled.
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#3
The National Pig Association said "we need 5,000 visas for skilled meat processing workers and butchers to come from abroad to cope with shortages caused by Polish and Romanian workers returning home during the pandemic. Overall there are said to be 10,000 vacancies in the sector."

I'm not sure it was flag waving that led to Polish and Romanian workers returning home during the pandemic.

As skilled meat processing work is generally well paid there's no reason not to include them on the Migration Advisory Committee’s recommended shortage occupation list. Actually getting them return is an entirely different thing.
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#4
Unfortunately it appears to be a combination of workers returning to heir families when the pandemic hit then not being able to come back to work following brexit, and those that decided to leave following brexit. Whichever way the current situation was thoroughly avoidable and very predictable but as ever the chimps in charge ignored it because it didn't fit the party line. Didn't one Tory MP highlight a similar issue for some business in his constituency that wasn't able to pick their crop costing them £180k only to be glared at by the bullies on the front bench.
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#5
(10-06-2021, 07:57 AM)baggy1 Wrote: Unfortunately it appears to be a combination of workers returning to heir families when the pandemic hit then not being able to come back to work following brexit, and those that decided to leave following brexit. Whichever way the current situation was thoroughly avoidable and very predictable but as ever the chimps in charge ignored it because it didn't fit the party line. Didn't one Tory MP highlight a similar issue for some business in his constituency that wasn't able to pick their crop costing them £180k only to be glared at by the bullies on the front bench.

Add to that the steady stream of casual labour arriving in the build up to Christmas, and the end of seasonal workers in fields moving back indoors and it’s indeed a perfect storm.

Has this whole crisis been caused entirely by Brexit, no it’s hasn’t, but could it have been prevented without Brexit - indeed it could.
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#6
Brexit… it’s a bit shit shocker!

Got to laugh at a certain poster who is all in favour of freedom of speech and for people to say things that may be unpopular having at least three people he disagrees with on ignore. He will be on in a minute talking about echochambers Wink
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#7
No desire to get into a re run of the Brexit debate.

But what has always amazed me is the lack of preparation for Brexit that those who advocated for it made if it came to pass.

For example it seemed to come as a surprise to them the complications that would result from there being a land border with the Republic of Ireland....who knew.
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#8
(10-06-2021, 09:38 AM)Shabby Russian Wrote: No desire to get into a re run of the Brexit debate.

But what has always amazed me is the lack of preparation for Brexit that those who advocated for it made if it came to pass.

For example it seemed to come as a surprise to them the complications that would result from there being a land border with the Republic of Ireland....who knew.

Get with the program, the new bullshit is they knew all the problems that would occur despite them saying at the time it was project fear and actually everything from food shortages to pigs was all part of the Brexit plan. However you must also understand that none of these issues are because of Brexit. This is not an episode of Yes Minister or the Thick of It, this is what this government and the vote leave cabal around them are now arguing.
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(10-06-2021, 10:57 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Get with the program, the new bullshit is they knew all the problems that would occur despite them saying at the time it was project fear and actually everything from food shortages to pigs was all part of the Brexit plan. However you must also understand that none of these issues are because of Brexit. This is not an episode of Yes Minister or the Thick of It, this is what this government and the vote leave cabal around them are now arguing.

Would it surprise you that British abattoirs are processing 11% more pork than this time last year?

Would it surprise you that there is a scramble for meat processors across Europe due to the huge surfeit of pork & Irish pork farmers are asking for immigration from outside the EEA?

Would it surprise you that the reason for the ramping up of pork production and the current problems are wholly unrelated to Brexit and far more to do with porcine diseases?

Cheap, lazy, high status Brexit blaming.
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#10
(10-10-2021, 02:48 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(10-06-2021, 10:57 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Get with the program, the new bullshit is they knew all the problems that would occur despite them saying at the time it was project fear and actually everything from food shortages to pigs was all part of the Brexit plan. However you must also understand that none of these issues are because of Brexit. This is not an episode of Yes Minister or the Thick of It, this is what this government and the vote leave cabal around them are now arguing.

Would it surprise you that British abattoirs are processing 11% more pork than this time last year?

Would it surprise you that there is a scramble for meat processors across Europe due to the huge surfeit of pork & Irish pork farmers are asking for immigration from outside the EEA?

Would it surprise you that the reason for the ramping up of pork production and the current problems are wholly unrelated to Brexit and far more to do with porcine diseases?

Cheap, lazy, high status Brexit blaming.

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