Nailing his colours to the mast
#61
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:59 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:52 PM)The liquidator Wrote: Makes no difference anyhow he has been dogshit for 12 months

A good solid and pacey Championship player.

Not good enough at this level - offers very little. 

Reminiscent of the quickest kid in a junior side. Nothing else.

Dreadful player for the money.

Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Well said....
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#62
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:59 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:52 PM)The liquidator Wrote: Makes no difference anyhow he has been dogshit for 12 months

A good solid and pacey Championship player.

Not good enough at this level - offers very little. 

Reminiscent of the quickest kid in a junior side. Nothing else.

Dreadful player for the money.

Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Oh I do blame the upper echelons of the club for subsidising such dreadful purchases, trust me.

But, in my opinion and I'm allowed one, neither will be good enough at this level.

Yeah, down in the Championship they'll be fine blah blah but when, hopefully we get back, this pair should be upgraded and shipped out.
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#63
(02-09-2021, 10:50 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:59 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote: A good solid and pacey Championship player.

Not good enough at this level - offers very little. 

Reminiscent of the quickest kid in a junior side. Nothing else.

Dreadful player for the money.

Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Oh I do blame the upper echelons of the club for subsidising such dreadful purchases, trust me.

But, in my opinion and I'm allowed one, neither will be good enough at this level.

Yeah, down in the Championship they'll be fine blah blah but when, hopefully we get back, this pair should be upgraded and shipped out.

You’re allowed one. Not the same shit on every single thread though.
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#64
(02-09-2021, 10:53 PM)Duffers Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:50 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote: Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Oh I do blame the upper echelons of the club for subsidising such dreadful purchases, trust me.

But, in my opinion and I'm allowed one, neither will be good enough at this level.

Yeah, down in the Championship they'll be fine blah blah but when, hopefully we get back, this pair should be upgraded and shipped out.

You’re allowed one. Not the same shit on every single thread though.

Okay, boss.
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#65
(02-09-2021, 10:50 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 06:59 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote: A good solid and pacey Championship player.

Not good enough at this level - offers very little. 

Reminiscent of the quickest kid in a junior side. Nothing else.

Dreadful player for the money.

Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Oh I do blame the upper echelons of the club for subsidising such dreadful purchases, trust me.

But, in my opinion and I'm allowed one, neither will be good enough at this level.

Yeah, down in the Championship they'll be fine blah blah but when, hopefully we get back, this pair should be upgraded and shipped out.

Subsidising? 

You are obviously allowed an opinion but repeating it several times a day is boring and tedious to say the least. 

How do you know they will never be good enough at this level - you absolutely cannot prove that, they are 23 and 22 (Diang) respectively.  Grant played in the Prem two years ago for 5 months when he was 21 and scored 4 goals in the worse side in the league.  

To get out of the Championship you have to have a fair smattering of the best players and if we do go down they will be two of the best and give us an excellent opportunity to make an immediate return. Good young english players cost a lot of money and prices will increase significantly with Brexit.   

But let's see where we are in 18 months time if we go down and earn promotion again.  

You may well be right about one or both of them, we'll see in due course.
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#66
(02-09-2021, 10:53 PM)Duffers Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:50 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 10:41 PM)Hopalong Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:11 PM)Baggie_Nick Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 07:06 PM)Dumbo Wrote: Nick, come on. 

Did you not catch his goal at Everton and see him in general that game. He’s been in and out with injury ever since. 

Why so quick to write off a young, talented player?

Your slagging of him and Grant in every post gets so tiresome.

Neither are good enough, particularly Grant.

And now we are privvy Diangana's attitude... From a very good source...

If you want to keep having a pop at people then have a go at the senior professionals not a couple of young players in their first full seasons in the Prem who have been thrown in at the deep-end,  to say the least.  They didn't agree the fees we paid for them, that was down to Dowling and Bilic presumably and if they aren't good enough that's where the accountability lies.   Personally I feel it's far too early to write them off. 

I've never seen either player give anything but 100% and Grant particularly has had little support and expected to plough a lone furrow in a role he never played in the Champ never mind the Prem.  

Give it a rest.

Oh I do blame the upper echelons of the club for subsidising such dreadful purchases, trust me.

But, in my opinion and I'm allowed one, neither will be good enough at this level.

Yeah, down in the Championship they'll be fine blah blah but when, hopefully we get back, this pair should be upgraded and shipped out.

You’re allowed one. Not the same shit on every single thread though.

Nick is a football genius. He's worked out that he's not going to be good enough at Premier league level when the lad has started less than 10 games in his Premier league career.

Someone needs to give Nick a job in football. His foresight is astounding.....
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#67
I think what nick is allouding too is that he hasn't looked like a Premier league player... That's my take on it.
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#68
(02-10-2021, 10:25 AM)The liquidator Wrote: I think what nick is allouding too is that he hasn't looked like a Premier league player... That's my take on it.

He looked like a Premier League player at Everton. Has been in and out with injury ever since.
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#69
(02-09-2021, 02:14 PM)Peachy Wrote:
(02-09-2021, 02:08 PM)Dumbo Wrote: Apparently Grady has been reluctant to come back because of his continuing hamstring injuries.

Slightly different to flat out refusing to play.

Ah right. Makes sense given he clearly has hamstring issues. So rather than a storm out and strop he has a different opinion to the club about the severity of the injury and the best way to treat it? Sounds like Nathan Ferguson all over again!! 

I hope he's seeing a specialist about this for the long term because it seems every time he comes back they ping again quite quickly.

We've been sold a pup by Wet Ham I reckon. Maybe they knew something we didn't with regards to his injuries?

and there in lies the problem, people jumping on the bandwagon. Fans think like to know what's going on, but in theory we know very little, seems sensible to think it's injury related rather than anything else. I though in pre season he was on form, hence why the players were angry he had been sold
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#70
(02-10-2021, 10:25 AM)The liquidator Wrote: I think what nick is allouding too is that he hasn't looked like a Premier league player... That's my take on it.

He said "neither will be" good enough at this level. Future tense.
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