(01-07-2021, 08:46 AM)ChamonixBaggie Wrote:(01-07-2021, 08:41 AM)Ted Maul Wrote:(01-07-2021, 08:31 AM)The liquidator Wrote: I don't care what they are but the similarities with not accepting a democratic vote is the same.. Those FBPE tossers are the same...... Have a good day and respect a democratic vote whoever wins and the world will be a better place.
FBPE/arch-Remainers are as much to blame for our current situation r.e. Brexit as anyone, but they certainly never stormed Parliament armed and with the intention of taking Mark Francois hostage.
Surprised by your stance on this one Ted. How are FBPE types as much to blame as the government that have actually delivered the steaming turd? This is similar to the "we should all get behind Brexit" rhetoric as if the average remainer would've been able to affect negotiations and subsequent legislation is they'd just been optimistic enough.
Without wanting to turn it into Brexit thread I feel the 'extremists' on both sides forged the division. There was the appetite amongst Labour votes (see 2017 election results) for a soft, managed (whatever you want to call it) Brexit that the vast majority of the country would have accepted. Even Theresa May's deal was better than what we have now.
I'd never say they were more culpable, but in a way Liq is correct. Their reluctance to accept any form of Brexit led many down the path of "Brexit at any cost"... the second Corbyn went with a Peoples Vote, look what happened. I can't remember the name but someone working in comms for the Peoples Vote campaign has come out in recent weeks saying there wasn't a great appetite for it, their lives would largely be the same Brexit or not, it was just a way of undermining an opposition that challenged a lot of their upper-middle class ideals. Still, just my onions and we're in the situation we're in. However weird the FBPE mob are, they certainly never stormed Parliament and Liq's original comparison is barmy.
Back on topic... America, eh? Bloody hell.