Is a new owner in the PL better than the Champ?
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(12-18-2020, 10:05 PM)Baggeridgebaggy Wrote: One thing is certain, any extended spell in the Championship with this owner or any owner who won’t support the club financially would create of strong prospect of a return to places we haven’t been to since the 90’s, both in the financial sense and also possibly geographically .... and that might include going to places like Rochdale, Hull & Charlton to play

Fans who’ve loved the Championship do so because we’re mainly better than other teams. And that’s because we can afford better players & following relegation have bigger budget than most of our competitors.

Once that advantage is gone and we’re competing with the aforesaid Hull, Charlton & Rochdale for players I don’t think many would be suggesting they wouldn’t want to be in the Premier League

Truth is unless you want to risk going the same way as the likes of Ipswich we have to as a minimum keep up our yo yo relationship with the premier league.

You mean, more recent fans .... Some of us enjoyed the Championship before we ever tasted the Greed League. And we were most assuredly nowhere near top of the pile for most of the time. We only got to near the top when we started boing boinging up and down.

It's interesting that some say the owners who spunk millions aren't good owners... Which is what Lai gets accused of, being a bad owner for not spunking millions... Now there is a catch 22. it seems that you are only viewed as a good owner when you spunk millions and the team does well, spunking millions and the team faltering = bad owners... Not spunking millions and the team doing well also, then faltering = bad owners....

It's a murky thing to be, so why the feck would any sane business person want to own a club?

Also, I thought we weren't owned by Lai anymore? So it wouldn't be his money anyway... I guess as with most things with our owners no-one really knows what is going on! I could handle him not spunking, but I don't like back stabbing and all the shyte that has happened recently.
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#12
Players flexed salary but still paid out nearly circa £85m in wages in 2 Championship seasons

Without promotion, crowds, ticket revenue & the last & smallest parachute payment the wage bill would have been virtually halved I’m sure ..then after that who knows
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#13
Why can’t we get Matthew McManameth and another of his Hollywood buddies, like Wrexham?
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#14
(12-18-2020, 10:37 PM)Squid Wrote: I fear new owners, I really do. As with the names listed upthread, plenty arrive with good intentions and spends loads of money and have nothing to show for it. Then things go toxic, really toxic. Look at Blackburn and Hull. There are fans who have been boycotting them for years.

Lai came in, said straight away that the club would be self-sustaining and he's stuck to his word. He brought in Williams and Goodman on the advice of JP and when they were clearly carp, he sacked them and got Jenkins back. Lai also sacked off the clearly useless Hammond and brought in the less useless Dowling.

I don't want someone who will come in and promise the earth. Just steady growth and sensible decisions and talking to fans regularly would do. I have no envy for either of our neighbours, neither of them does business in a manner I care for.

And I never want to sign a player who won't accept a flex down clause in his contract, that way madness lies. Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea all had Championship players on £100K a week and it's absolutely toxic for a dressing room. Not us and I reckon that's a major contributor to our good performences in the Championship.

Excellent post - well put.

I’m not fan of Lai, but for the most part he’s done what he said he’d do, and has left the club to run itself. Contrast that with Swansea’s owners who’ve been cutting budgets and pulling cash out since day one.
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(12-18-2020, 10:57 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: Why can’t we get Matthew McManameth and another of his Hollywood buddies, like Wrexham?

Could have him and Cat Deeley, it's about as Hollywood as we'll get....

Actually, what has happened to Marsden? Since Black Hawk Down I don't recall hearing of him in anything.
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#16
Good idea. Why not also Frank Skinner in his Vengabus pants as a half-time cameo, getting tubby Tiptonites to hoof footballs at houses built on dodgy, noxious Brown Belt land. The renaissance is here at last.
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(12-18-2020, 11:28 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: Good idea. Why not also Frank Skinner in his Vengabus pants as a half-time cameo, getting tubby Tiptonites to hoof footballs at houses built on dodgy, noxious Brown Belt land. The renaissance is here at last.

Terry Vengabusles would probably be branded a dinosaur too.
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#18
(12-18-2020, 11:47 PM)SW4Baggie Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 11:28 PM)HawkingsHalfpint Wrote: Good idea. Why not also Frank Skinner in his Vengabus pants as a half-time cameo, getting tubby Tiptonites to hoof footballs at houses built on dodgy, noxious Brown Belt land. The renaissance is here at last.

Terry Vengabusles would probably be branded a dinosaur too.
I've no idea what you're talking about.
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(12-18-2020, 10:37 PM)Squid Wrote: I fear new owners, I really do. As with the names listed upthread, plenty arrive with good intentions and spends loads of money and have nothing to show for it. Then things go toxic, really toxic. Look at Blackburn and Hull. There are fans who have been boycotting them for years.

Lai came in, said straight away that the club would be self-sustaining and he's stuck to his word. He brought in Williams and Goodman on the advice of JP and when they were clearly carp, he sacked them and got Jenkins back. Lai also sacked off the clearly useless Hammond and brought in the less useless Dowling.

I don't want someone who will come in and promise the earth. Just steady growth and sensible decisions and talking to fans regularly would do. I have no envy for either of our neighbours, neither of them does business in a manner I care for.

And I never want to sign a player who won't accept a flex down clause in his contract, that way madness lies. Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea all had Championship players on £100K a week and it's absolutely toxic for a dressing room. Not us and I reckon that's a major contributor to our good performences in the Championship.

Stop talking sense - that's not what this bored is for.
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#20
(12-19-2020, 08:52 AM)Brentbaggie Wrote:
(12-18-2020, 10:37 PM)Squid Wrote: I fear new owners, I really do. As with the names listed upthread, plenty arrive with good intentions and spends loads of money and have nothing to show for it. Then things go toxic, really toxic. Look at Blackburn and Hull. There are fans who have been boycotting them for years.

Lai came in, said straight away that the club would be self-sustaining and he's stuck to his word. He brought in Williams and Goodman on the advice of JP and when they were clearly carp, he sacked them and got Jenkins back. Lai also sacked off the clearly useless Hammond and brought in the less useless Dowling.

I don't want someone who will come in and promise the earth. Just steady growth and sensible decisions and talking to fans regularly would do. I have no envy for either of our neighbours, neither of them does business in a manner I care for.

And I never want to sign a player who won't accept a flex down clause in his contract, that way madness lies. Stoke, Sunderland and Swansea all had Championship players on £100K a week and it's absolutely toxic for a dressing room. Not us and I reckon that's a major contributor to our good performences in the Championship.

Stop talking sense - that's not what this bored is for.

Yea absolutely how dare you come on here spouting such logical and common sense views this place has standards you know, ban him Birdy before it catches on  Rolleyes
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