Following the science?
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(06-10-2020, 05:30 PM)TETLEY74 Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 04:07 PM)baggy1 Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 03:55 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 08:38 AM)baggy1 Wrote: You've been crying for weeks about the lockdown being too harsh, ours was hardly Wuhan style military on the streets. We didn't even go as far as France or Spain, yet you wanted it eased. That report shows why we needed it as the minimum, it's also clear that we didn't lock down early or hard enough. If we'd have done that at the time, we'd be in a much better position to save the economy now. As it stands we went half measures and have to pay the price now.

The report comes from a group of scientists seeking to justify what we've done.

If you've been paying attention these last few weeks you'll have heard all manner of 'scientific' contributions to the debate. I have. There is no settled science on this matter whatsoever.

That said, the government has played a terrible game with the crap hand it was dealt.

I know I'm not alone in believing all our kids should be at school now, that the 2m distancing is based on no evidence whatsoever, that the chances for asymptomatic spread are negligible as are the chances of catching this outdoors too. That's from listening to scientists.

I look forward to the inevitable Public Inquiry into this catastrophe for our economy. Then we can start the finger pointing.

It will become abundantly clear that we've sacrificed freedoms, our children's education and the economy on a vague threat to NHS capacity that has never been tested in 12 weeks. And now we're going to have 10 million people on the NHS waiting list. Thank God I can afford health insurance for the family.

The increase in number of cases was massive at the start of the lockdown because of the uncontrolled spread, if we hadn't have had the lockdown it would have continued increasing rather than slowing down as it did. We've already had 65k excess deaths, without the lockdown you could have added 10s of thousands to that figure. We could also have locked down earlier if it wasn't for people like you screaming for the economy to be prioritised, that in itself would have done two things - reduced the number of deaths and meant we would be out of it by now and restarting the economy. If you can't see that then you really area lost cause to the $$
Spot on, I'll ask this question again to those who think we overreacted and the threat was not real, just how many deaths would you have been prepared to see before you agreeded  lockdown was  needed?

Lockdown was way too late so no overreaction when it did happen. If it had been at start of March and borders closed we'd have had less deaths and we'd be out of lockdown now. Whole thing totally mismanaged. But now there is an overreaction about getting people who aren't vulnerable or at risk (u45s) back out there.
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Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 01:54 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Solihull Throstle - 05-31-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by FenlandBoing - 05-31-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 05-31-2020, 02:52 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by strawman - 05-31-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 05-31-2020, 06:32 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Ossian - 05-31-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: Following the science? - by foreveralbion - 05-31-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Following the science? - by strawman - 05-31-2020, 06:59 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Following the science? - by JOK - 06-01-2020, 07:03 AM
RE: Following the science? - by ChamonixBaggie - 06-01-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Ted Maul - 06-02-2020, 07:34 AM
RE: Following the science? - by PeakBaggie - 06-01-2020, 10:14 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-01-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-01-2020, 12:13 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-01-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-01-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by HomersBelly - 06-01-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-01-2020, 05:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Fido - 06-01-2020, 06:03 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-01-2020, 08:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-01-2020, 08:27 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-02-2020, 07:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-02-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by FenlandBoing - 06-02-2020, 09:07 AM
RE: Following the science? - by HomersBelly - 06-02-2020, 02:10 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 08:24 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 08:56 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 09:24 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 11:20 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 01:47 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-02-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-02-2020, 02:34 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-02-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 07:59 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-03-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 08:48 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 08:49 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-03-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 10:54 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 01:28 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-03-2020, 01:56 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-02-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Ossian - 06-03-2020, 08:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-05-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-05-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-05-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-09-2020, 01:23 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-10-2020, 08:32 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-10-2020, 08:38 AM
RE: Following the science? - by TETLEY74 - 06-10-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-10-2020, 09:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-10-2020, 03:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-10-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by TETLEY74 - 06-10-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-11-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 09:23 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 09:34 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 10:28 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 11:44 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-11-2020, 12:32 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-11-2020, 01:56 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 06-11-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Baggybenny - 06-11-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 06-09-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Following the science? - by EastMidsBaggie - 06-10-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by foreveralbion - 06-10-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Following the science? - by EastMidsBaggie - 06-10-2020, 02:36 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-10-2020, 03:15 PM

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