Following the science?
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(06-03-2020, 01:28 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 12:22 PM)Shabby Russian Wrote: The idea that you could have let 50% of the High Street banks go to the wall and there wouldn't have been some serious economic chaos is for the birds.

Christ, it's the same when we discuss the NHS on here, it's either one extreme (UK) or the other (US).

The one where you fail to acknowledge that the best European healthcare systems are in countries that have adopted the Beveridge model which was conceived to help implement the NHS in the first place, before bringing up Germany thinking their system is why they have better health outcomes than us instead of their level of public funding and conveniently ignoring the fact that Ireland has the same Bismarck system and it's worse than the NHS?

The grown-up discussion on reforming our healthcare system ended when that idiot Andrew Lansley decided to go for a purely ideological approach in addressing our health system instead of doing the sensible thing which was looking at what plans Lib Dem ministers, predominantly David Laws who was sidelined by Cameron to the bloody DfE, drew up for the Orange Book (actually based on our own needs as a country) and completely fucked it up, putting the trusts in £13bn in debt for no reason then reversing half of the reforms when it was apparent it was a shit idea, ultimately showing that the Conservative conversation on healthcare reform was not to be trusted.
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Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 01:54 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Solihull Throstle - 05-31-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by FenlandBoing - 05-31-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 05-31-2020, 02:52 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by strawman - 05-31-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 05-31-2020, 06:32 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Ossian - 05-31-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: Following the science? - by foreveralbion - 05-31-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Following the science? - by strawman - 05-31-2020, 06:59 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 05-31-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Following the science? - by JOK - 06-01-2020, 07:03 AM
RE: Following the science? - by ChamonixBaggie - 06-01-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Ted Maul - 06-02-2020, 07:34 AM
RE: Following the science? - by PeakBaggie - 06-01-2020, 10:14 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-01-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-01-2020, 12:13 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-01-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-01-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by HomersBelly - 06-01-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-01-2020, 05:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Fido - 06-01-2020, 06:03 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-01-2020, 08:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-01-2020, 08:27 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-02-2020, 07:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-02-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by FenlandBoing - 06-02-2020, 09:07 AM
RE: Following the science? - by HomersBelly - 06-02-2020, 02:10 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 08:24 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 08:56 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 09:24 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 11:20 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 01:47 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-02-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-02-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-02-2020, 02:34 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-02-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 07:59 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-03-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-02-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 08:09 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 08:48 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 08:49 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-03-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 10:54 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-03-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-03-2020, 01:28 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-03-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Borin' Baggie - 06-03-2020, 01:56 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-02-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Ossian - 06-03-2020, 08:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-05-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-05-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-05-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-09-2020, 01:23 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-10-2020, 08:32 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-10-2020, 08:38 AM
RE: Following the science? - by TETLEY74 - 06-10-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Derek Hardballs - 06-10-2020, 09:25 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-10-2020, 03:55 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-10-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Following the science? - by TETLEY74 - 06-10-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-11-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 09:23 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 09:34 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 10:28 AM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 11:44 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Protheroe - 06-11-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Following the science? - by Shabby Russian - 06-11-2020, 12:32 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-11-2020, 01:56 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 06-11-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Following the science? - by baggy1 - 06-11-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Following the science? - by Baggybenny - 06-11-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: Following the science? - by The liquidator - 06-09-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Following the science? - by EastMidsBaggie - 06-10-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Following the science? - by foreveralbion - 06-10-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Following the science? - by EastMidsBaggie - 06-10-2020, 02:36 PM
RE: Following the science? - by billybassett - 06-10-2020, 03:15 PM

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