Has he gone yet?

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

Amazing really how this bored reflects the surge for a bloke who has nothing to do with Epstein sacked but can’t overcome its flagshagging credentials to question whether we should have a monarchy when we’ve all been funding a rabid nonce for 70 odd years who is directly implicated

Independent critical thought is dead on its arse.

[Protheroe]

Amazing really how this bored reflects the surge for a bloke who has nothing to do with Epstein sacked but can’t overcome its flagshagging credentials to question whether we should have a monarchy when we’ve all been funding a rabid nonce for 70 odd years who is directly implicated

Independent critical thought is dead on its arse.

I think said nonce might find himself up in front of the beak sooner or later.

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

It’s the “later” bit coupled with the outrage over finance rather than sex trafficking that tells you all you need to know about how power still works and what’s so fucked from top to bottom

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I see Charlie is now “ready to help police” over claims Randy shared insider trading info but hasn’t been so quick out the blocks for the now deceased woman who was exploited and cost them £16m to keep quiet

[PatelsPlatoon]

He hasn't gone and nor should he.

Loads of thick people about looking for scapegoats galore.

For all his issues Starmer is a more decent and honourable person than most and had nothing directly to do with Epstein.

Compare this to the Tory sleaze we had over years and it's nothing.

[tHEgLASSdOORS]

Is correct. But the media will do what the media will do and the drones will follow.

That said, his decision making on Mandelson was shocking, regardless of what he did or didn’t know. That he was even having to ask the questions he asked should’ve been enough.

I’d give it Miliband if it was being based on common sense and who is the most politically capable.

[Duffers]

There's been a campaign, definitely amplified by certain bad actors both home and abroad with their own agendas, on social media to vilify and oust Starmer ever since he came in. Regularly calling the worst PM in history when in reality he isn't even in the bottom three from the last decade, but stupid people believe what their algorithms tell them and parrot this nonsense.

That's not to say he hasn't been great as PM and realistically the tide is too far against him to turn it round now. A paddling in May will hopefully lead to a massive reset of Labour and the government and they can start fighting back against Farage and his cronies.

[baggy1]

That's pretty much how I see it Duffers. If the focus of attention was on Farage in the same way it is on Starmer then the narrative would be very different. I believe that the political media got used to the stardom and headline grabbing broadcasts when the country was going mad for Brexit and haven't been able to come off the attention drug yet. They do love a drama, whether real or perceived.

[Duffers]

That's pretty much how I see it Duffers. If the focus of attention was on Farage in the same way it is on Starmer then the narrative would be very different. I believe that the political media got used to the stardom and headline grabbing broadcasts when the country was going mad for Brexit and haven't been able to come off the attention drug yet. They do love a drama, whether real or perceived.

Does make you yearn back for the days when politicians were boring men and women who just quietly got on with the job.

[PatelsPlatoon]

That's pretty much how I see it Duffers. If the focus of attention was on Farage in the same way it is on Starmer then the narrative would be very different. I believe that the political media got used to the stardom and headline grabbing broadcasts when the country was going mad for Brexit and haven't been able to come off the attention drug yet. They do love a drama, whether real or perceived.

Does make you yearn back for the days when politicians were boring men and women who just quietly got on with the job.

A bit like Starmer you mean?

He's in the same mould as John Major.

[Midget In A Pinstripe Suit]

That's pretty much how I see it Duffers. If the focus of attention was on Farage in the same way it is on Starmer then the narrative would be very different. I believe that the political media got used to the stardom and headline grabbing broadcasts when the country was going mad for Brexit and haven't been able to come off the attention drug yet. They do love a drama, whether real or perceived.

Does make you yearn back for the days when politicians were boring men and women who just quietly got on with the job.

A bit like Starmer you mean?

He's in the same mould as John Major.

I filmed him towards the end of last year, not a particular fan of his but he spoke very well and without committing himself to much had very little positive to say about any of the current parties.