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#31
(12-18-2025, 05:09 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Ive never been part of a union and the only time I’ve ever sought their advice they were fucking useless.

When I was a union rep we were always deliberately useless for non members.
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#32
(12-20-2025, 02:08 AM)Ournextstriker Wrote:
(12-18-2025, 05:09 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Ive never been part of a union and the only time I’ve ever sought their advice they were fucking useless.

When I was a union rep we were always deliberately useless for non members.

Arf, imagine complaining about a service that you never paid for.
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#33
(12-20-2025, 09:26 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(12-20-2025, 02:08 AM)Ournextstriker Wrote:
(12-18-2025, 05:09 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Ive never been part of a union and the only time I’ve ever sought their advice they were fucking useless.

When I was a union rep we were always deliberately useless for non members.

Arf, imagine complaining about a service that you never paid for.

Imagine simply going to them as a potential member and getting some condescending prick greet you. I imagine you can comrade.
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#34
I used to battle all year to get a decent pay rise for all employees and encourage members to vote for it and non members to join so we would have a better bargaining tool. Won some good battles and better pay and conditions.

I don’t remember non members refusing more pay even tho they didn’t lift a finger to help.
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#35
(12-20-2025, 10:57 AM)Ournextstriker Wrote: I used to battle all year to get a decent pay rise for all employees and encourage members to vote for it and non members to join so we would have a better bargaining tool. Won some good battles and better pay and conditions.

I don’t remember non members refusing more pay even tho they didn’t lift a finger to help.

I don’t work in a heavily unionised sector, there are no shop stewards or worker representatives. I’ve had one experience with unions when a number of us went for advice, which many people including myself would have given for free and we got fug all advice because we weren’t a member. No one wanted them to represent us, they just asked for some basic advice. 

I could lie and say even though we weren’t members, they still tried to help and encouraged us to consider or find a union that would be able to help but they didn’t.
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#36
You were surprised that an organisation that exists for its members, and is funded by those members wasn't particularly interested in helping you?

How odd.
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#37
(12-20-2025, 11:41 AM)Protheroe Wrote: You were surprised that an organisation that exists for its members, and is funded by those members wasn't particularly interested in helping you?

How odd.

I know it’s completely incomprehensible to someone who only cares about money to contemplate trying to help others with some simple advice that would have taken a few minutes of their time. It may have made those that went for advice to consider becoming a member as well.
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#38
(12-20-2025, 12:40 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(12-20-2025, 11:41 AM)Protheroe Wrote: You were surprised that an organisation that exists for its members, and is funded by those members wasn't particularly interested in helping you?

How odd.

I know it’s completely incomprehensible to someone who only cares about money to contemplate trying to help others with some simple advice that would have taken a few minutes of their time. It may have made those that went for advice to consider becoming a member as well.

The fucking one-eyed irony. Cake and eat it eh?

Better to call it failure of statecraft
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#39
I quickly learnt after helping a non member who management had singled out that it wasn’t in anyone’s interest to assist her.
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#40
I think I’m glad I’m not part of a union given the attitude of… we wont give you a few minutes of our time unless you’re a member, and when i say minutes i mean just that, not hours or days. Up the workers… as long as you’ve paid pay your subs.
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