Rachel Reeves
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(12-01-2025, 10:59 AM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: After campaigning for the fantasy economics in the 2019 Tory manifesto I'm finding your criticism of the current government's handling of fiscal and economic matters extremely hollow to be blunt.

Oh FFS, do we have to do this one again? Did you not see any of the action from Liverpool this weekend. Don't be such a dickhead.

(12-01-2025, 12:00 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I think we can safely pop anything you say about fiscal or even political policy in the shredder.

Thankfully I've had the occasional original thought, something I know has eluded you for eternity.
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(12-01-2025, 12:42 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(12-01-2025, 10:59 AM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: After campaigning for the fantasy economics in the 2019 Tory manifesto I'm finding your criticism of the current government's handling of fiscal and economic matters extremely hollow to be blunt.

Oh FFS, do we have to do this one again? Did you not see any of the action from Liverpool this weekend. Don't be such a dickhead.

(12-01-2025, 12:00 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: I think we can safely pop anything you say about fiscal or even political policy in the shredder.

Thankfully I've had the occasional original thought, something I know has eluded you for eternity.

Do you still have to pretend you wouldn’t have campaigned for Johnson and the Tories even if Labour had say Starmer in charge. You were bullish with your ‘winning’ for at least a decade of appalling government and Brexit… now you’re going to leave the country because another party has to rebuild the mess you helped usher in.
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(12-01-2025, 12:42 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(12-01-2025, 10:59 AM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: After campaigning for the fantasy economics in the 2019 Tory manifesto I'm finding your criticism of the current government's handling of fiscal and economic matters extremely hollow to be blunt.

Oh FFS, do we have to do this one again? Did you not see any of the action from Liverpool this weekend. Don't be such a dickhead.


Ah right, I'm being a dickhead for calling out your hyperbolic tripe about duplicity and incompetence when you quite literally supported fiscal and economic nonsense with enthusiasm, bragging about how you were "winning". But heaven forbid anyone ask you to show any level of introspection about the complete idiocy of the policies that you supported with enthusiasm, that you tried to wind people up over on here when they were being put in place and that have directly caused the fiscal mess we're in. Debt interest wasn't dropping before Reeves got into the Number 11, the tax traps and fiscal drag didn't come in from July 2024, productivity trends didn't start flatlining then either.

You want to talk about growth? The reversal in the trend of declining market infrastructure investment since 2015 with public infrastructure spending rising to 2.4% of GDP. Greater public investment into R&D. Both explicit supply-side reforms, both significantly better than the approach taken by the last government. But no, let's talk as though the sky is crashing in (it isn't) and as though we're in a recession (we aren't).
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#14
The hyperbole that is coming from Proth this morning is off the scale. Apparently we're all doomed and can't possibly see any problems because we don't have life experiences.

Maybe we should post how much tax we've paid this year to prove how knowledgeable we are (real tax not including our VAT payments would be better so it's not inflated for effect).
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#15
(12-01-2025, 01:13 PM)baggy1 Wrote: The hyperbole that is coming from Proth this morning is off the scale.

We will see.
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#16
In fairness since KKK left us to write his book about the Halfords Lane massacre, we’ve only really had a couple of level 1 hyperbole posters so it’s good to have the void filled
Raw Sausage
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#17
(12-01-2025, 09:41 AM)Protheroe Wrote: I don't see how anyone can look at the creation of a new world record for kite flying, the half truths delivered to the public (and the Cabinet FFS) and the resulting second successive growth-strangling Budget and believe that Reeves / Starmer are at the same time not amongst the most duplicitous and incompetent politicians of their generation.

The only people happy with this Budget are the various social workers, personal injury lawyers, charity apparatchiks and never-had-a-job PPE graduates that constitute the PLP. Anyone at all who works in the private sector or, God forbid, runs a business ought to be treating them with the contempt they deserve.

I've fuggin missed you, lad.  Welcome back.
Would rather talk to ChatGPT
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#18
He said 3 months ago that you’d miss him. He was right.
Raw Sausage
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#19
Just a reminder, taxes went up significantly more under the Tories than they will do under Labour. The Tories talk about giving people low taxes but it is they who are the tax raising party. Labour's taxes typically fall on the top 10% of the earnings distribution (which does include me). Take a read of Dan Niedle's article in the Times.
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#20
Starmer has just announced a huge cut to nuclear red tape and wants to expand the review that recommended it to other infrastructure sectors.

"No growth plans" though
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