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(07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: (07-22-2024, 10:26 AM)MrBater Wrote: The yanks voting a woman in as pres, I really can't see that happening. They're a strange lot over there.
Trumps 'miraculous' assassination survival, and running against a woman... I think it's his to lose.
People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get. However, on hearing about Biden quiting and Kamala running against him instead, he said "Biden has just made the election easier for the Democrats to lose". Which I agree with.
I really doubt trump would say anything other than that, whatever Biden had chosen to do!
He's got a different challenge to face now and I believe it's made life a bit more difficult for him.
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07-22-2024, 02:13 PM
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(07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: (07-22-2024, 10:26 AM)MrBater Wrote: The yanks voting a woman in as pres, I really can't see that happening. They're a strange lot over there.
Trumps 'miraculous' assassination survival, and running against a woman... I think it's his to lose.
People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get. However, on hearing about Biden quiting and Kamala running against him instead, he said "Biden has just made the election easier for the Democrats to lose". Which I agree with.
To be fair Saus, he is somewhat remarkable and think anyone half decent cannot help but be absolutely disgusted at him, whilst feeling the same revulsion in equal measure that multi millions lap it up, with a fair mix of bewilderment of what's been happening there in recent years.
The reasons are complex, but still a decade or so since his unexpected entry into politics it's all still hard for most of us to get our heads around the whole story of his success.
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(07-22-2024, 02:13 PM)Spandaubaggie Wrote: (07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: (07-22-2024, 10:26 AM)MrBater Wrote: The yanks voting a woman in as pres, I really can't see that happening. They're a strange lot over there.
Trumps 'miraculous' assassination survival, and running against a woman... I think it's his to lose.
People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get. However, on hearing about Biden quiting and Kamala running against him instead, he said "Biden has just made the election easier for the Democrats to lose". Which I agree with.
To be fair Saus, he is somewhat remarkable and think anyone half decent cannot help but be absolutely disgusted at him, whilst feeling the same revulsion in equal measure that multi millions lap it up, with a fair mix of bewilderment of what's been happening there in recent years.
The reasons are complex, but still a decade or so since his unexpected entry into politics it's all still hard for most of us to get our heads around the whole story of his success. To be fair, The Simpsons predicted it.
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(07-22-2024, 08:14 AM)WorcsWBA Wrote: (07-22-2024, 12:52 AM)Everything Zin Wrote: Trump will absolutely avoid a debate against an intelligent, educated black woman - he would be shown up for the thick,racist, misogynistic twat that he is.
And if he does avoid it it'll reflect badly on him, so it's a lose-lose situation for him 
(07-22-2024, 08:14 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Trump will win a landslide if Harris campaigns on her record. It's a gift to the Republicans.
I think you're completely wrong, but you are a Tory so....
Proth is right. Harris absolutely tanked during her own run for Democratic candidacy and is widely viewed as only having got the role due to the 2020 "Racial Reckoning" and has had persistently low approval ratings as a VP.
Saying this isn't being a "doomer" or pro-Trump, it's reality. All the people who spent months saying Biden was fit enough to run have a big portion of blame for Trump's almost inevitable re-election.
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07-22-2024, 04:36 PM
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If Trump doesn't have any dirt on Harris he will simply turn to the same reasons for ousting Biden. Trump will claim she was by his side and as accountable as he.
And this should be on the politics bored by now
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(07-22-2024, 04:14 PM)Squid Wrote: (07-22-2024, 08:14 AM)WorcsWBA Wrote: (07-22-2024, 12:52 AM)Everything Zin Wrote: Trump will absolutely avoid a debate against an intelligent, educated black woman - he would be shown up for the thick,racist, misogynistic twat that he is.
And if he does avoid it it'll reflect badly on him, so it's a lose-lose situation for him
(07-22-2024, 08:14 AM)Protheroe Wrote: Trump will win a landslide if Harris campaigns on her record. It's a gift to the Republicans.
I think you're completely wrong, but you are a Tory so....
Proth is right. Harris absolutely tanked during her own run for Democratic candidacy and is widely viewed as only having got the role due to the 2020 "Racial Reckoning" and has had persistently low approval ratings as a VP.
Saying this isn't being a "doomer" or pro-Trump, it's reality. All the people who spent months saying Biden was fit enough to run have a big portion of blame for Trump's almost inevitable re-election.
Not sure that's entirely on point.
There were a lot of candidates to be the Democratic candidate for 2020, so it would always going to be difficult to cut through in that contest. It very quickly had to be a contest between Sanders and the mainstream candidate best placed to beat him, which was always likely to be Biden.
And I'm not sure why she can't run on the Democratic record of the last 4 years. Far more coherent than the previous 4 years of chaotic Trump Govt.
If there is a candidate who should be worried about defending their record it's Trump.
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07-22-2024, 04:54 PM
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(07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get.
Hard to imagine why people would do that when he's one of the most indisputably despicable public figures ever to have lived...
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Just imagine what mincemeat Kamala would make of Trump in a presidential debate:
https://x.com/cspan/status/1123661258912407553
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(07-22-2024, 04:54 PM)WorcsWBA Wrote: (07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get.
Hard to imagine why people would do that when he's one of the most indisputably despicable public figures ever to have lived...
Yes, it's awful how people are prepared to attack this racist, misogynist, compulsive liar who is a threat to democracy. Give him a break!
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(07-22-2024, 01:46 PM)SausEggBaton Wrote: (07-22-2024, 10:26 AM)MrBater Wrote: The yanks voting a woman in as pres, I really can't see that happening. They're a strange lot over there.
Trumps 'miraculous' assassination survival, and running against a woman... I think it's his to lose.
People try and take pop shots at Trump in the media or socials, or this dump at every chance they get. However, on hearing about Biden quiting and Kamala running against him instead, he said "Biden has just made the election easier for the Democrats to lose". Which I agree with.
The big meanies picking on the loveable misunderstood sausage.
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