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(03-07-2024, 02:03 PM)BurleyBaggie Wrote: I hate this cancel culture. He’s no more guilty than she is, both parties are innocent until proven otherwise.
For his part, a top KC dismissed the accusation. Then someone leaked alleged confidential material, I would assume whoever did this would be suspended.
Also it’s worth noting that no individual prior or since has come forward about Horner’s behaviour. In cases like this where C-Suite types are accused many victims come forward as part of the investigation process.
In addition, a lot of background is missing. The 49% minority stakeholders are trying to oust Horner way before this accusation came out. It’s been going on since Dietrich Mateschitz died…there’s a power struggle happening and this all seems very circumspect.
A top KC? So you are assuming that legal professionals don't lie?
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Classy but seems on brand for Horner and Redbull.
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(03-07-2024, 01:59 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:57 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:54 PM)Lurker#3 Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:51 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:39 PM)SuperBob2002 Wrote: How'd you know she wasn't lying?
Why do you assume she was?
I don't think he has?
The paper talk (so take with a whole truck of salt) is that Geri Halliwell has demanded Horner cut ties with her, and so she has been suspended.
I think China's original point is that she's made an accusation, and whilst it's not been upheld in the greivance, she shouldn't be suspended for putting that greivance in if she felt the behaviour was inappropriate.
If the WhatsApp leaks are correct (very big if) you can't even ask a female colleague if she would like a cup of coffee any more.
It's political correctness gone mad.
In fairness, I've not seen the messages, I would question why he was using WhatsApp to ask if she wanted a coffee though? Just seems strange to me.
Either way, it's probably a storm in a teacup.
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(03-07-2024, 02:22 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:59 PM)Kit Kat Chunky Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:57 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:54 PM)Lurker#3 Wrote: (03-07-2024, 01:51 PM)AnelkasBeard Wrote: Why do you assume she was?
I don't think he has?
The paper talk (so take with a whole truck of salt) is that Geri Halliwell has demanded Horner cut ties with her, and so she has been suspended.
I think China's original point is that she's made an accusation, and whilst it's not been upheld in the greivance, she shouldn't be suspended for putting that greivance in if she felt the behaviour was inappropriate.
If the WhatsApp leaks are correct (very big if) you can't even ask a female colleague if she would like a cup of coffee any more.
It's political correctness gone mad.
In fairness, I've not seen the messages, I would question why he was using WhatsApp to ask if she wanted a coffee though? Just seems strange to me.
Either way, it's probably a storm in a teacup.
What philistine has coffee in a teacup? Check their hardrive.
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Didn't Lynsey De Paul write Storm in a teacup?
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(03-07-2024, 02:04 PM)rsbaggy2 Wrote: (03-07-2024, 02:03 PM)BurleyBaggie Wrote: I hate this cancel culture. He’s no more guilty than she is, both parties are innocent until proven otherwise.
For his part, a top KC dismissed the accusation. Then someone leaked alleged confidential material, I would assume whoever did this would be suspended.
Also it’s worth noting that no individual prior or since has come forward about Horner’s behaviour. In cases like this where C-Suite types are accused many victims come forward as part of the investigation process.
In addition, a lot of background is missing. The 49% minority stakeholders are trying to oust Horner way before this accusation came out. It’s been going on since Dietrich Mateschitz died…there’s a power struggle happening and this all seems very circumspect.
A top KC? So you are assuming that legal professionals don't lie? 
An independent KC was brought in to undertake an investigation to review all sides. This is beyond ridiculous. The KC was brought in at the behest of the management in Austria who are anti Horner. So the idea a KC lies to protect Horner is nonsense.
This is my issue with cancel culture. You pick in the one element of what someone says rather than looking at the whole. There is background here that I think needs to be considered.
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Who paid for the KC?
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If the texts are real, how did he pull a spice girl?
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