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And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
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(02-13-2024, 12:23 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
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You’re correct. Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on
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Make a fast food restaurant chain where we sell Indian mixed grills, bathams, battered chips, faggots, pays n' gravy and scratchings.
Real Madrid have launched theirs called UNO
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02-13-2024, 12:37 PM
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This is so unrealistic, the idea that we can make enough money from tickets and match day revenue to make us competitive flies in the face of reality. By all means sell the naming rights for the ground but that’s it? Thats the big plan to make us compete with clubs such as Wolves, Villa even Blues now? Oh and let’s be honest here Blues owners are just using the naming rights to pump money (millions) into the club it has little credibility that it’s the going rate for the size of club Blues are.
This is such a small time way of operating I’d expect it to be Walsall not ourselves. You can’t fleece fans with increasing ticket costs, we barely sell out as it is. Currently there is almost no reason to visit the ground at any other time than when we play every two weeks on average for nine months of the year… that is not a sustainable business model.
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02-13-2024, 12:39 PM
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Bristol City is a good example, they have a huge sports bar and pizzeria attached to the stadium which is always packed pre match showing the early KO. The bar is used during international tournaments and again is always packed. They have bands playing outside and numerous other food stalls and host large gigs/comedy shows regularly. The matchday experience there compared to ours is night and day. I go to a few BCFC games a season as a lot of my friends are City fans and we're in the sports bar from 12pm until KO each time, whereas I'd get to the Hawthorns as late as possible.
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(02-13-2024, 12:29 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:23 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
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You’re correct. Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on
Disagree Prag, it's hardly a novelty for clubs to diversify their commercial revenue streams. If we end up with an owner willing to put money in then means of investment outside of FFP constraints that can then be counted towards commercial revenues is a viable way to build that up, whether that be naming rights, conferences, shows, renting out land for events (don't know why we haven't partnered with DDC for something on the Hawthorns Pub/Greggs car park). The Hawthorns has excellent road and public transport links yet has been underutilised for that stuff, there's fuck all outdoor stadium shows in Birmingham for example so why not use it in the summer more?
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(02-13-2024, 12:50 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:29 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:23 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
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You’re correct. Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on
Disagree Prag, it's hardly a novelty for clubs to diversify their commercial revenue streams. If we end up with an owner willing to put money in then means of investment outside of FFP constraints that can then be counted towards commercial revenues is a viable way to build that up, whether that be naming rights, conferences, shows, renting out land for events (don't know why we haven't partnered with DDC for something on the Hawthorns Pub/Greggs car park). The Hawthorns has excellent road and public transport links yet has been underutilised for that stuff, there's fuck all outdoor stadium shows in Birmingham for example so why not use it in the summer more?
I am yet to see an English club which owns an oil mining plant in the Middle East.
If the income can’t go into the FFP calculations, then it’s pointless.
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02-13-2024, 01:19 PM
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(02-13-2024, 01:06 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:50 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:29 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:23 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
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You’re correct. Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on
Disagree Prag, it's hardly a novelty for clubs to diversify their commercial revenue streams. If we end up with an owner willing to put money in then means of investment outside of FFP constraints that can then be counted towards commercial revenues is a viable way to build that up, whether that be naming rights, conferences, shows, renting out land for events (don't know why we haven't partnered with DDC for something on the Hawthorns Pub/Greggs car park). The Hawthorns has excellent road and public transport links yet has been underutilised for that stuff, there's fuck all outdoor stadium shows in Birmingham for example so why not use it in the summer more?
I am yet to see an English club which owns an oil mining plant in the Middle East.
If the income can’t go into the FFP calculations, then it’s pointless.
No but there's loads of scope for licensing for commercial opportunities which can be counted towards FFP income, obviously that's in conjunction with building the brand up on the pitch so easier said than done but it's not something that should be dismissed and we can't limit ourselves to just matchday income.
Spurs leasing space for a microbrewery on their ground is a good example of creative revenue approaches.
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(02-13-2024, 01:19 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: (02-13-2024, 01:06 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:50 PM)Borin' Baggie Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:29 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: (02-13-2024, 12:23 PM)Fulham Fallout Wrote: And what’s the benefits to the club for branching out into being a property developer?
Would this income be allowed in the FFP calculations? Of course not, else every other rich club would have lots of other business ventures under the club’s limited company.
Next!
You’re correct. Stadium match day revenue and naming rights for the stadium are the two main areas to focus on
Disagree Prag, it's hardly a novelty for clubs to diversify their commercial revenue streams. If we end up with an owner willing to put money in then means of investment outside of FFP constraints that can then be counted towards commercial revenues is a viable way to build that up, whether that be naming rights, conferences, shows, renting out land for events (don't know why we haven't partnered with DDC for something on the Hawthorns Pub/Greggs car park). The Hawthorns has excellent road and public transport links yet has been underutilised for that stuff, there's fuck all outdoor stadium shows in Birmingham for example so why not use it in the summer more?
I am yet to see an English club which owns an oil mining plant in the Middle East.
If the income can’t go into the FFP calculations, then it’s pointless.
No but there's loads of scope for licensing for commercial opportunities which can be counted towards FFP income, obviously that's in conjunction with building the brand up on the pitch so easier said than done but it's not something that should be dismissed and we can't limit ourselves to just matchday income.
Spurs leasing space for a microbrewery on their ground is a good example of creative revenue approaches.
Using part of the ground, yes. Building West Bromwich Village akin to Bicester village, no.
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Albion need, by any means necessary, to increase revenue streams however they do it (ethically of course).
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